Thought for the day...

cmartinez

Joined Jan 17, 2007
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It never ceases to amaze me the human stubbornness invested in trying to make a system work that has historically proven to be economically unsustainable .... over and over again ...
 

joeyd999

Joined Jun 6, 2011
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Publicly advocating socialism should be criminalized.
No! We need to know who they are.

What we need is a better way to advocate for capitalism. I try, but I am only one voice.

In my day, we were taught in high school that socialism/communism == bad. The class was called Comparative Political Systems and was a required part of the curriculum. Such "cultural judgementalism" is frowned upon today.
 

killivolt

Joined Jan 10, 2010
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Today in the news Florida chose a Progressive. Hollywood is partially responsible for leading the charge in favor of Socialism, most of those individuals lack the ability to understand it will cripple their finical stability. Hey who needs money right? a few less Million right? it won't hurt their bottom line......... yeh, right.

As always who pay's the bill in the end is the upper middle class workers. If you've never worked 3 part time jobs to pay the bills you haven't lived, I have and it sucks to get up at 5am and finish at 11pm, I've done it.

The biggest problem yet is public school, they teach socialism and profess it's success in history and history has been re-written by them over the last 40+ years.

How does it start? http://learneconomicsonline.com/marxist.php

With socialism (stage 5) the final oppressive class is overthrown and society is put under the dictatorship of the proletariat and thus advances into communism (stage6). The first three stages are not given particular attention, since by Marx's time they had long come to pass.
kv

Edit: I'm visiting Switzerland to do some Genealogy on my family. If the progressives gain control I might just stay there, I'm learning High-German until I leave for Europe in four years or so. I think America is losing it's grip on intelligence in favor of playing online games and social media. Who wouldn't want to stay in Mom and Dads house for the next 40 years living like a tick.
 
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joeyd999

Joined Jun 6, 2011
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Even when you play ball, you eventually become the enemy.

Smurfit Kappa said it has been providing goods and services to its customers in Venezuela for almost 80 years giving employment to almost 1,600 direct employees.

During that time Smurfit Kappa has operated to "the highest business and ethical standards", invested significant amounts of capital in its business, developed a highly progressive Corporate Social Responsibility program and dedicated significant financial support and resources to the education and health of the less privileged members of the communities in which the company operates.
Emphasis mine. No good deed goes unpunished.
 

wayneh

Joined Sep 9, 2010
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https://apnews.com/9d95a99f8a424acab95ade3cdee6b99b

It's his money so let him have it. Broke or OD'd in two weeks tops.
It wouldn't be the first time someone was "killed by kindness". My mother told a story about a wife that grew tired of hubby's perpetual drunkeness and rather that giving him an "intervention" (which was unheard of at the time), she bought him a barrel of whiskey. He was soon dead. She was not prosecuted even though everyone knew what she had done.
 

joeyd999

Joined Jun 6, 2011
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It wouldn't be the first time someone was "killed by kindness". My mother told a story about a wife that grew tired of hubby's perpetual drunkeness and rather that giving him an "intervention" (which was unheard of at the time), she bought him a barrel of whiskey. He was soon dead. She was not prosecuted even though everyone knew what she had done.
Neat idea.

I'm gonna ask my wife for a keg of Guinness. There are worse ways to go.
 

wayneh

Joined Sep 9, 2010
16,399
Neat idea.

I'm gonna ask my wife for a keg of Guinness. There are worse ways to go.
One of my favorite western short stories is about the barkeep disgusted with the wagon drivers helping themselves to his whiskey shipments. So he orders a shipment of methanol. Same outcome as above.
 

nsaspook

Joined Aug 27, 2009
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https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2018/08/31/tearful-tech-mogul-jailed-domestic-violence/
Gurbaksh Chahal, founder of online advertising companies Gravity4 and RadiumOne, sobbed while asking San Francisco Superior Court Judge Tracy Brown for leniency.

Chahal was charged with felony domestic violence in 2013 after police say he punched and kicked his girlfriend 117 times inside his San Francisco penthouse. Security camera video evidence of the attack was deemed inadmissible after a judge ruled police had obtained it without a warrant. With no video and after his girlfriend declined to cooperate with police, Chahal pleaded guilty in 2014 to two misdemeanor battery charges of domestic violence and was sentenced to three years probation.
 

cmartinez

Joined Jan 17, 2007
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https://www.nbcnews.com/mach/science/watch-new-printer-shoot-droplets-100-times-earth-s-gravitational-ncna905546

A new printing technique designed at Harvard University's engineering school uses sound waves to control and fire droplets from a nozzle with incredible force, allowing researchers to print with liquids thicker and more viscous than ever before.

Honey, stem-cell-based inks and liquid metals all printed fluidly using these vibrations, which come from acoustic techniques that researchers had previously used to levitate liquids, not print with them.
 

WBahn

Joined Mar 31, 2012
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Venezuela isn't the first country to try socialism. It won't be the last. What is the trigger point where socialism is relegated to the annuls of history and only talked about when using it as an example of bad government.
I don't believe that such a trigger point exists. Civilization, by its very nature, is a self-defeating concept. Hence we are on a never-ending cyclical journey, with different regions being in different points of the cycle at any given time and rotating at different rates. But in every part of that journey there are those, usually due to ignorance and one-level-deep thinking, that believe that people will behave the way they would like them to behave, if only given a chance. To those people, socialism is a panacea because, once we get rid of the selfish capitalists that have been stealing the wealth from the people, everyone will joyously labor, with smiles on their faces and songs on their lips, in solidarity for the greater good. This will be led, of course, by selfless heroes who will guide the economy and determine just what everyone should be making so as to provide happiness for all.

The problem is that this kind of ignorance and one-level-deep thinking is a common byproduct of many of the other points in that cyclical journey -- most forms of society gravitate to a situation in which power becomes vested in those that seek power for their own ends and then seek to cement it there. All-too-often this results in a push to make the masses ignorant and ill-educated and unable to think critically, because it is easier to sway with emotions than it is to persuade with logic. This then sets the stage for others to come along and fuel envy and jealousy and scapegoatism by touting those socialist ideals at no more than one level deep.
 

cmartinez

Joined Jan 17, 2007
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everyone will joyously labor, with smiles on their faces and songs on their lips
According to Arthur C Clarke, communism is indeed the perfect form of government... that is for insects, such as ants and bees ... for all other higher life forms, a more complex (and unique) social structure applies.
 

nsaspook

Joined Aug 27, 2009
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https://apnews.com/9d95a99f8a424acab95ade3cdee6b99b

It's his money so let him have it. Broke or OD'd in two weeks tops.
https://abc13.com/society/all-gofundme-money-is-gone-attorney-for-homeless-man-says/4144230/
PHILADELPHIA --
The attorney for Philadelphia homeless man John Bobbitt, whose act of kindness led to a $400,000 GoFundMe fundraiser to presumably help him, said all of the cash raised in his client's name is gone.

Attorney Chris Fallon said he found this out during a conference call with the attorney for Kate McClure and Mark D'Amico on Tuesday morning.

An attorney for the couple, Ernest Bradway, has declined comment.

Kate McClure shielded her face as she drove away from her Florence Township, New Jersey home. She did not respond to questions about the money.
 
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