So you think the city collects fines from these people and tosses them back in to bring back more next time? I hadn't though of that but it would explain a few things. It's a feeding trough for lawyers and judges who have zero interest in reducing the flow.

 

Whatever they're doing isn't working, that's plain. But I think the insiders complain that not nearly enough of the perpetrators actually do time when they're caught. It's catch-and-release in Chicago. I honestly don't know why. I tend to think the people of Chicago don't really want to change their city all that badly, not badly enough to pay for it. Maybe there is no money in the budget for jail time? (The state is beyond broke.)

Poor old Chicago gets a bum rap:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_by_crime_rate

 

Of course it's about cash flow. I think it was Jefferson in The Federalist Paper number 84 who said something about, "It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg." He was talking about restricting our government to making laws only when there is a victim to protect, and if my neighbor believes in 20 Gods or no Gods at all, it neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg. Now we have so many laws that you can't spill your drink (in some California city which I recently posted in this Thread) without the government demanding cash from you. Fail to use a turn signal when there isn't a headlight visible in any direction? Pay me. Drive the same speed as everybody else on the 275 Atlanta bypass? Pay me. Give a hamburger to a homeless man? Pay me. Carrying cash to buy a used car? Just give it all to me. Meanwhile several hundred thousand rape kits sit untested and the "clearance rate" for murder is about 13% because those cost money to do.

Edit: That's 13% for car theft. Murder clearance is 60%.
Just correcting my post.

Had coffee for breakfast? Pay me.
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/man-arrested-dui-charges-driving-under-influence-caffeine/

"The legitimate powers
of government extend to such acts
only as are injurious to others.
But it does me no injury
for my neighbor to say
there are twenty gods, or no God.
It neither picks my pocket
nor breaks my leg."

http://quotes.liberty-tree.ca/quote_blog/Thomas.Jefferson.Quote.E858

https://reason.com/archives/2016/12/26/happy-birthday-to-the-bill-of-rights

 

Then they'll wipe each other out and the cops can clean up whatever is left over.

while it sounds apathetic, I do think to some extent that "community policing" is motivated by that. Yes, cruel, inhuman (to some degree), but it forces accountability and community participation in policy and that may be the only way to fix issues.

I tend to think the people of Chicago don't really want to change their city all that badly, not badly enough to pay for it.

People in the suburbs certainly don't care about the killings in the inner city. the people in the inner city have yet to realize that the very politicians they have elected to represent them are committing a genocide on them, slowly and effectively. they need to take their communities back.

But getting them to understand that takes time, which may be running out on them.

 

@wayneh
Here's today's news on extortion of innocent people directly related to catch-and-release.
$25 "booking fee" not refunded when the citizen is found not guilty.
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/booking-fees-latest-example-extortion-police-revenue/

Of course, that is a pittance compared to the hundreds of millions stolen as, "civil asset forfeiture" from people who aren't even suspected of a crime, let alone charged or arrested.

And while I'm here, look at these two cases. One 5 year old kid walks to school, father is jailed for child endangerment.
And the other, a 2 year old child killed by father's own police issue pistol, no charges.
https://reason.com/blog/2016/12/28/5-year-old-boy-accidentally-walks-to-sch
https://photographyisnotacrime.com/...s-himself-in-head-with-department-issued-gun/

Or would you rather consider: Woman charged with child endangerment while in Starbucks for 10 minutes compared to cop kills child in hot car, no charges?
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/cop-escapes-charges-son-hot-car/

It has to be about the money because it obviously isn't about serving, protecting, or any sort of justice.
You cop? Kill your own child for all I care.
You not a cop? If I even see your child playing in the front yard, you're going to jail. Pay me.

 

Here's today's news on extortion of innocent people directly related to catch-and-release.
$25 "booking fee" not refunded when the citizen is found not guilty.

It has to be about the money because it obviously isn't about serving, protecting, or any sort of justice.

This actually offers another reason the feds want in on the racket, hence the "war on local cops". The feds would prefer to have a cap-and-trade scheme on crime. You can keep doing all the crime you want as long as you feed your ill-gotten cash into the pockets of the bureaucrats running the scam. Even the church dabbled in this type of scheme with their "indulgences" in the middle ages.

 

The feds would prefer

The Feds are very much in on the Civil Asset Forfeiture. There are places which outlawed that on a local level, but the local police just invite the feds and get a kick-back, thus avoiding the will of their constituency.

I have quit seeing the War on Drugs, prostitution, and several other activities as an attempt to legislate morality. It looks more and more like "un-taxed commerce" is the target. It isn't a big leap to imagine the same motive for victimless crimes like not quite stopping perfectly still at a stop sign, jay-walking, braiding hair or painting fingernails for cash. So many fingers wanting to be in every pie that it begins to look like a very well organized Mafia extortion racket.

 

Here is another precise reference to the catch and release/cash flow theory.
In Louisiana, the Sheriff's job is to collect revenue, not enforce any other laws.

"The Louisiana State Constitution, replied the Attorney General’s office, specifies that he is to be “the collector of state and parish ad valorem taxes and such other taxes and license fees as provided by law.” Where law enforcement is concerned, the sheriff’s duties are a matter of discretion."

http://www.copblock.org/169566/eliminate-crime-abolish-the-police/

So, what do the police do with all this money?
Or maybe a better question would be, "What don't the police do with their funds?"

"Government-employed police have no enforceable duty to protect persons and property, even those to whom they have made explicit promises of individual protection. In fact, citizens are expected to protect the police – and some have found themselves being sued by officers who accused them of failing to provide that protection."

http://www.copblock.org/145667/the-police-dont-work-for-you/

Wow. All that cash flow and no responsibility to do anything on behalf of the citizens?
Most of what they actually do is seek out more cash flow, not serve, protect, or solve or prevent crimes.
What's wrong with this picture?

Do your own inventory.
When did a cop on the beat ever help you, personally?
And how many times has dealing with a cop been just a waste of time and/or money?

 

Other than car accidents, where I felt the presence of police was probably helpful, all my interactions with police have cost me money or led to nothing.

The fact that local police seem mostly pre-occupied with collecting revenue from traffic, as opposed to doing actual hard police work, does seem to support the theory.

 

Here's a good question: How is framing over 400 people (in one city) (with planted evidence) protecting or serving the community?
By causing more cash flow for the police and courts?

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/45...ed-after-cops-caught-framing-innocent-people/

 

The fact that local police seem mostly pre-occupied with collecting revenue from traffic, as opposed to doing actual hard police work, does seem to support the theory.

that's the fault of a voter unwilling or unable to vote with his/her feet.

if a merchant isn't providing a service / product that you paid for, you go somewhere else. the same with governments.

 

And we should have fifty governments to choose from.

Not one.

 

And we should have fifty governments to choose from.

you don't have fifty to chose from.

just some 300+ ones, however.

 

that's the fault of a voter unwilling or unable to vote with his/her feet.

if a merchant isn't providing a service / product that you paid for, you go somewhere else. the same with governments.

Everybody can't leave every country with corrupt police until we have another planet to go to.

 

View attachment 117675 Everybody can't leave every country with corrupt police until we have another planet to go to.

Or until the earth warms up enough for Antarctica to become inhabitable...

 

http://www.kcra.com/article/da-drop...field-man-tests-positive-for-caffeine/8543519

The Solano County District Attorney's Office decided Wednesday to drop a DUI charge against a Fairfield man who only tested positive for caffeine.
...
On Tuesday, Abrams said she was still moving forward with the DUI charge. However, after talking with forensic toxicologists Wednesday and her top investigators, she felt she could no longer prove the case beyond a reasonable doubt.

"The attention from the press or the media or the social media would never dictate what we do in a case," Abrams said. "As my dad always says, 'shut out the noise and do what's right.'"

That's total BS.

 

That's total BS.

Are you referring specifically to the highlighted claim? Yeah, that's laughable.

The wording of the headline is simple click-bait.

 

The caffeine case has been dropped.
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/dui-caffeine-charges-dropped/
Bad cop, no doughnut (cash flow).

Now the next question. What can be accomplished by fining parents who walk their children to school?
Cash flow.

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/texas-parents-told-will-arrested-walk-children-school/

 

Did you ever wonder where the Cities get all that overtime money to pay for their police force to aggressively enforce traffic laws? Federal funding.

 

Federal funding.

Yep. Just found one today. DCF pays one county in Florida (Broward) $15 million per year to hire the Sheriff's Office to bring guns when they seize a child, and they have to seize a lot of children to justify $15 million per year in Federal Money for one county.
Are all those children required to lose their parents just to keep the Federal Money flowing?
No. Only 90% of them are kidnapped just to keep the money flowing.

"Good social workers who become whistleblowers or leave social services due to the massive corruption tell us that a very small percentage of children removed from their homes have actually been abused. The figure given to us is less than 10%."

http://healthimpactnews.com/2016/so...ss-owner-who-refuses-to-give-his-name-to-cps/

There are 67 counties in Florida and there are 3144 counties (or county equivalents) in the U.S.
That number can't possibly hold true for all counties because that would move $47 billion per year in Federal money.
Well, maybe it could be true, considering the Federal defense budget is in the area of $585 billion per year.

http://www.ypstate.com/wiki/fl/florida025/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/County_(United_States)
https://www.defense.gov/News/Special-Reports/FY16-Budget