The war on cops, another chapter

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So, back to the War on Cops.
Why don't people trust cops?
Miami Beach Pays Good Samaritan Beaten by Cop $100,000 Settlement
Mossberg (the Good Samaritan) says the cop beat him to prevent him from speaking to dispatchers.
The cop "judo-kicked" him twice in the head, punched him, and then threw him into an SUV's front fender. Three witnesses observed the attack. Mossberg was then charged with assaulting an officer.

What does the police union rep say?
"We are proud to say that Det. Archer has never done anything less than exceptional work for the department and we stand by him 100 percent as a member of our force."

If that's what the police union thinks is exceptional work, we have serious problems.
(See article for history of complaints and law suits against this exceptional LEO.)
http://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/m...100-000-settlement-8788225?platform=hootsuite

Then we have another person killed for sleeping in a car:
http://patch.com/wisconsin/wauwatos...-d-s-hands-video-footage-will-not-be-released

And a method I had not heard of before, trying to get hoodlums to plan a robbery on a drug house, then, without ever doing the SWAT style raid, successfully convicting the co-conspirators with planning to sell the non-existent drugs from the non-existent drug house.
"The stings had been a centerpiece of efforts by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives to target violent crime." that didn't happen in a completely imaginary scenario which the ATF created. And USA Today is complaining that more blacks than whites fall for this police created crime.:confused:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2016/09/23/atf-stash-house-stings-minorities/90950474/

This is very similar to the self-serving, government created "terrorists", that wouldn't have a plan or a fake bomb if the police didn't provide it.
* With three exceptions, all of the high-profile domestic terror plots of the last decade were actually FBI stings.
"None of them had the competence or connections to execute any kind of terror plot without the guidance of the FBI. In other words, the FBI is creating these threats itself, out of thin air."
https://downsizedc.org/blog/now-playing-at-security-theater-the-sting

False Flag Florida: FBI Agents ‘Posing As Terrorists’ in Miami Sting Operation
"So why is anybody praising the FBI for stopping a terror attack when they are the very group that facilitated its implementation in the first place?"

http://21stcenturywire.com/2016/05/...osing-as-terrorists-in-miami-sting-operation/
and another
http://www.salon.com/2013/07/10/only_1_percent_of_terrorists_caught_by_fbi_are_real_partner/
and another
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...eland-security-caught-smuggler-or-created-one
 
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#12

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Tired of finding out why the American citizens are talking about a War on Police Malfeasance?
So am I. It's never ending. There are new stories every day.
There have been 4 or 5 attacks on police this year while there are thousands of attacks BY police.
Unarmed people killed with their hands up, fake terrorist plots "foiled" by their perpetrators, people shot for sleeping in their cars, people beaten and arrested for filming the police, people beaten for being unconscious, people charged with assaulting an officer while unconscious, the list never ends and the daily occurrences don't either.
I'm ready to put this puppy to bed.
Raising awareness has been accomplished on this site.
 

nsaspook

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So, back to the War on Cops.

This is very similar to the self-serving, government created "terrorists", that wouldn't have a plan or a fake bomb if the police didn't provide it.
* With three exceptions, all of the high-profile domestic terror plots of the last decade were actually FBI stings.
I don't know about the others but this one was not a created "terrorist".
"An 18 year-old "angry loser" who was given fake bombs by the FBI to detonate Portland's Christmas tree

http://content.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2033372,00.html
The FBI's detailed affidavit portrays Mohamud as hell-bent on bombing the popular annual event in Portland's Pioneer Courthouse Square. The FBI complaint details how undercover agents proposed other, less lethal ways Mohamud could help the jihadi cause besides bombing, but the young man was steadfast. Indeed, the affidavit contains virulent quotes allegedly from Mohamud: "I want whoever is attending that event to leave, to leave either dead or injured"; "You know what I like to see? Is when I see the enemy of Allah then, you know, their bodies are torn everywhere"; "It's gonna be a fireworks show ... a spectacular show ... New York Times will give it two thumbs up"; and "Do you remember when 9/11 happened when those people were jumping from skyscrapers ... I thought that was awesome."
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"Before this happened, the father informed Homeland Security and the FBI that something was going on with his son," claims Isgow Mohamed, executive director of the Northwest Somali Community Organization, who says he knows Mohamud's family well and had been in touch with them. "This a good family. The father is an engineer at Intel. This is not somebody who is on public assistance. He is a family man, a businessman, a religious man, a soccer player."
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On Nov. 26, after a final inspection of what he believed would be an "amazing" bomb, Mohamud was asked once again by the undercover agent if he wanted to go through with it. He allegedly said yes and reportedly smiled when he heard a TV report that 25,000 people were expected in Pioneer Courthouse Square that evening. When the time came, Mohamud repeatedly dialed the designated trigger number, but no explosion occurred. Federal agents arrived shortly afterward to take away a kicking Mohamud, who shouted "Allahu akbar" — Arabic for "God is great." The affidavit says there is probable cause to charge him with attempted use of a weapon of mass destruction.
No one made him try to trigger the 'fake' bomb.

http://www.kptv.com/story/26679116/...-prison-for-christmas-tree-lighting-bomb-plot
 
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nsaspook

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Nsaspook even if article is totally true and also that Scott really was _bad actor_ leading up to shooting, I say police could have saved themselves a lot of trouble by being forthcoming from get go! Cuz secrecy in face of suspicion is a bad mix:rolleyes:!
It would have made little difference to the people who lean to the fantasy there is some national epidemic of cops killing blacks. It's mainly a slight of hand to blur the fact that blacks are killing other blacks in their neighborhoods at a ridiculous rate in this country for various reasons completely detached from law enforcement.
 

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It would have made little difference to the people who lean to the fantasy there is some national epidemic of cops killing blacks. It's mainly a slight of hand to blur the fact that blacks are killing other blacks in their neighborhoods at a ridiculous rate in this country for various reasons completely detached from law enforcement.
All this evidence and you're still in denial?
You know that over 1000 people a year die in custody (or attempted custody).
You know this is something like 40 times as high as the death rate in other countries.
Post #897...70 times as high.
And now you play the race card.

Well, read this:
http://www.copblock.org/166485/white-privilege/

Police abuse should not be happening at all to anyone, regardless of race, gender or any other categorical differences between individuals.

That includes, who gets killed more by each other, HIV, smoking, and poverty.

In conclusion, you have the right to keep your head in the sand.
 
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nsaspook

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All this evidence and you're still in denial?
You know that over 1000 people a year die in custody (or attempted custody).
You know this is something like 40 times as high as the death rate in other countries.
And now you play the race card.

Well, read this:
http://www.copblock.org/166485/white-privilege/

Police abuse should not be happening at all to anyone, regardless of race, gender or any other categorical differences between individuals.

That includes, who gets killed more by each other, HIV, smoking, and poverty.

In conclusion, you have the right to keep your head in the sand.
I'm not playing the race card, the members of groups like BLM are. I agree that police killings are too high. There is just no evidence that blacks are being targeted just by race in all but a few police killings of blacks but there is plenty of evidence that blacks are targeting other blacks for death.
 

JoeJester

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I did find the "restraining order" signed by his wife, telling the cops he carries a 9 mm interesting. He has no gun ... it was a book.

Nice mantra.

Due process. It's slow, it's ugly, but the social media mantra of jumping to conclusions reins supreme in today's society. This allows the "reactionary" federal government and local politicians an opportunity to divide the electorate.

What the hell is white privilege? I don't recall having any such benefits when I was taken away in a squad car. Ok. that was a number of years ago ... and it was a different time, even when I kicked the door closed and they opened it again, both actions were repeated a few times ... I was released with an apology a hour or so later.
 

nsaspook

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After all the documentation posted in this Thread, showing exactly that, I can only repeat, "You have the right to keep your head in the sand."
So the black chiefs and black cops in many of the cities were blacks are being killed by cops are wearing white hoods planning to kill black men. OK ...
 

#12

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So the black chiefs and black cops in many of the cities were blacks are being killed by cops are wearing white hoods planning to kill black men. OK ...
And now you play the race card.
Police abuse should not be happening at all to anyone, regardless of race, gender or any other categorical differences between individuals.
I can only repeat, "You have the right to keep your head in the sand."
You can keep going around the same circle for weeks. (You just did it.) That doesn't mean I have to keep showing you the same information for as long as you can refuse to learn.
 

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Here' one that's more fun. About a self-driving car being pulled over for going too slow:
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13 Nov 2015 6:50

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did the officer stop the car with a taser? or was it a stinger? - I wonder how he did stop the car. May have even had to take out a tyre (sorry - tire).

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Photos in the article suggest the car was white, so, none of the above

The whole world knows about American police misconduct, but you don't.:D
 

JoeJester

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Rallying against police misconduct is good. However, they still have the same protections of the Constitution as everyone else.

In this instant world, it's a tough pill called due process, that still is the procedure of investigation, trial, and then punishments. We can't jump right to punishment no matter what the public or politicians think.
 

nsaspook

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You can keep going around the same circle for weeks. (You just did it.) That doesn't mean I have to keep showing you the same information for as long as you can refuse to learn.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/12/u...police-use-of-force-but-not-in-shootings.html
Mr. Fryer found that in such situations, officers in Houston were about 20 percent less likely to shoot if the suspects were black. This estimate was not precise, and firmer conclusions would require more data. But in various models controlling for different factors and using different definitions of tense situations, Mr. Fryer found that blacks were either less likely to be shot or there was no difference between blacks and whites.
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Moreover, the results do not mean that the general public’s perception of racism in policing is misguided. Lethal uses of force are exceedingly rare.
So I guess Mr. Fryer, the youngest African-American to receive tenure at Harvard has his head in the sand about killings. We all have to make choices about what we think and believe. This is just one data point of many. YMMV.
 
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nsaspook

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I did find the "restraining order" signed by his wife, telling the cops he carries a 9 mm interesting. He has no gun ... it was a book.

Nice mantra.
This years winner for best actress. Rakeyia Scott.
Rakeyia Scott can be heard telling officers: “Don’t shoot him! He has no weapon.”
First runner up.
Corine Mack, president of the local NAACP chapter, said Scott’s legal history didn’t matter because officers didn’t know any of it before he was shot and blacks typically are “demonized” after being killed by police.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/keith-lamont-scotts-wife-filed-restraining-orders-against-him/
 

dannyf

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You all know me as s die hard liberal who loves NY times for its fantastic reporting.

Today there is a well written and intimate piece about the other war on police. This time, it is Baltimore vs. Mosby, who as some of you may know is the prosecutor who unsuccessfully indicted the police officers in that tragedy.

This to me should be the gold standard of journalism as it portays the subject in its naked and fact driven and emotionless state.

It describes a very courageous and reform minded prosecutor who is motivated by political goals and deep down racism and hatrat for others unlike her. And utter incompetence.

It puts a lot of meat to her behaviors and societies struggle on race relations.
 
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