The war on cops, another chapter

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JoeJester

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That just seems like a bad way to approach a broken tail light. If you don't run up on a person with your gun drawn, he won't go straight to trying to survive.
If there is one thing I’ve learned about media firestorms in the modern age of one-hour news cycles and 15-second attention spans, it’s that whoever tells the first story which the news media likes is the “winner.” Once the narrative is set in stone (when the news media works in unison that takes about two days, tops), the truth will face a battle that is severely uphill, into the wind, on ice, and will almost never prevail.
---John Ziegler July 2016
 

nsaspook

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In the case of NC. the guys wife says he has a TBI (traumatic brain injury). They might have backed off to a safe distance and talked to her. My bet is if you had ask them before they talked and saw the videos many of them never heard her screaming. They were already "locked on."
They were locked on to him and I think he decided to checkout. No win for anyone.
 

ronv

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Yeah, your right. The cops should have backed down and let the person, with a gun, go about their business.
It's an open carry state. There was nothing wrong with him holding a gun. Now maybe smoking the funny cigarette was the threat.
Not to have you accuse me of wanting to take your guns away, but, Why should it surprise anyone that someone has a gun in an open carry state. God, they might have shot Joey999 when he was sitting around dry firing his glock.
For all I know the blunt may have been medical.

What was the man with the gun thinking at the time the cops were yelling "put down the gun"?
What are these guys so excited about?:D
 

nsaspook

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It's an open carry state. There was nothing wrong with him holding a gun. Now maybe smoking the funny cigarette was the threat.
Not to have you accuse me of wanting to take your guns away, but, Why should it surprise anyone that someone has a gun in an open carry state. God, they might have shot Joey999 when he was sitting around dry firing his glock.
The cops (undercover in a stakeout car) saw him with the blunt but didn't care until they saw the gun per their report. Maybe Mr. Scott was spooked by a car loaded of big men checking him out and moved his pop gun into plain sight as a threat to the then unknown cops. When they showed up with POLICE vests he freaked because all he saw was a long jail time for the gun.
 

JoeJester

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I have no problems with someone carrying a weapon in an open carry state. On July 7th, 2016, a person in Dallas was carrying their AR15 shouldered during the BLM march.

Dallas PD didn't shoot him. Of course the one who was firing at the officers did end up in the morgue.

As soon as that event unfolded, my wife asked if that was our son's patrol area. I said no, but I'm sure he is in that area as it has become an all hands evolution. We didn't hear from him until much later ... probably about five or so hours when he texted he was ok.

I don't pretend to know what was in anyone's mind in NC, either side. Open carry does not mean you don't comply with the police officers directives. Failure to do so can and has gotten people killed ... suicide by cop.
 

ronv

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The cops (undercover in a stakeout car) saw him with the blunt but didn't care until they saw the gun per their report. Maybe Mr. Scott was spooked by a car loaded of big men checking him out and moved his pop gun into plain sight as a threat to the then unknown cops. When they showed up with POLICE vests he freaked because all he saw was a long jail time for the gun.
Could be. One more reason to give his wife a shot, so to speak.
 

JoeJester

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All the cop wanted to do was boink the kid's mother, but the boyfriend was in the way...and then the child got in the way.:(
and he feared for his life because lacko'nookie kills.
That was not in the article you quoted. In another article, at http://usuncut.com/news/cop-claims-self-defense-shooting-6-year-old-autistic-boy/, it was mentioned one of those cops as being charge with raping two women in 2011.

Where do these police officers come from? Society. Like the politicians wanting the composition of the police force to mirror society, it does. It mirrors society in all aspects of humanity, the good, the bad, and the ugly.
 

nsaspook

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Why cops should love cameras.
Academy Award winning Eyewitness testimony.
1:30


Some of the gloves being tossed on the ground that became the some of the 'planted' gun(s).
Now we know the video actually shows the real gun next to his (Mr. Red) left foot.
 
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#12

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I assert that experience shows a properly trained/conditioned '98 pound weakling' is as able to retain their 'hardware' (and otherwise 'hold their own') as a 280 pound professional athlete ---
Did somebody say, "98 pound weakling"?
Here's a 95 pound weakling:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jul/30/native-american-police-deaths-loreal-tsingine

Maybe because of this training:
"police officers are being dressed in the trappings of war, drilled in the deadly art of combat, and trained to look upon “every individual they interact with as an armed threat and every situation as a deadly force encounter in the making.”
https://www.rutherford.org/publicat...when_police_become_judge_jury_and_executioner
 

nsaspook

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Deadly weapon.
In the video, Tsingine gets up and walks toward Shipley with a small pair of medical scissors in her left hand, and another officer quickly approaches her from behind. Shipley draws his gun and directs it at Tsingine, and the footage is cut off before he fires the fatal shot.
https://www.rt.com/news/323141-palestinian-israeli-stabbings-jerusalem/
The two girls, aged 14 and 16, stabbed the man with two pairs of scissors on Jaffa Road, a main thoroughfare between East and West Jerusalem. The attack caused wounds to the victim's head and back.

The 16-year-old attacker was shot and killed by an Israeli police officer, while her 14-year-old accomplice was shot and wounded. Police said the two girls were related.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ger-dead-wound-threaten-knives-West-Bank.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/peo...ese-man-launches-scissor-attack-hospital.html

Assault with a deadly weapon
 
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