I think these may be the same people who believe the government reads their minds by beaming microwaves into their homes.

I've seen a picture or two of people wearing aluminum foil hats...

Given that they believe in conspiracy theories, I don't think the government would think it worthwhile to read their minds!

The things that some people believe is absolutely mind boggling. I keep asking myself how someone can be dumb enough to believe that junk.

 

I've seen a picture or two of people wearing aluminum foil hats...
The things that some people believe is absolutely mind boggling. I keep asking myself how someone can be dumb enough to believe that junk.

I saw a post in some obscure forum from a guy trying to turn his house into a Faraday cage. He was getting a lot of responses from others doing the same thing. One guy enclosed his bed in screen mesh. I was searching for RF attenuating coatings to protect sensitive electronics and came across these posts. It was both interesting and frightening to discover that so many people had that level of paranoia.

 

Why is it that you in the northern hemisphere seem to overly "endowed" with all the crackpots and wierdos who believe in any thing that some clown dreams up? Is it just to get their name in lights(dim ones mostly) or just to have 10 seconds of fame. i guess I shouldnt be surprised given some of the stuff I see expounded by your politicians,bible bashers and the rubbish put out on your media.
Although I must admit there are some people here who don't believe that America exists, you all all just actors on our tv screens. I could never work out how you don't fall off the earth since you are all upside down anyway.

 

Three Apollo missions left reflectors on the moon:
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What would be needed to do a practical test if these reflectors exist and if they work as intended?

Would they reflect visible light (from a laser) or microwaves? Back in the 1960s, radar transmissions were reflected by the moon. which is about 2500 miles in diameter. But a small object placed on the surface would be very difficult to detect. Getting back to my earlier comment, can the remains of the landing by seen through a telescope?

 

Glenn, after reading you for a few years, I can not believe that you would consider the landing as a ruse.

It isn't like we only went there once and all was lost except a 5 min. video clip.

How can you consider this crap?

How good are we at keeping secrets? How many secrets can we keep from the other intelligence agencies?........or from the press for that matter. According to the supreme court......revealing our countries most vital secrets, is a legal occupation. And a constitutional duty.

Are you a closeted flat earther?

 

What would be needed to do a practical test if these reflectors exist and if they work as intended?

Would they reflect visible light (from a laser) or microwaves? Back in the 1960s, radar transmissions were reflected by the moon. which is about 2500 miles in diameter. But a small object placed on the surface would be very difficult to detect. Getting back to my earlier comment, can the remains of the landing by seen through a telescope?

Your local observatory maybe? Their presence doesn't prove anything anyway. We're talking absolute proof and that would be looking at things like telemetry and verifying that everything is its expected state. Hell they basically have as it's been run through simulators and demonstrated over and over that it was able to accomplish this inside of realistic physics engines! So that to me alone is proof positive that it would be absolutely foolish to even attempt to fake it. They could do it, they knew it, and that's exactly what they did. Human beings stood on the Moon that day. Full stop.

 

Your local observatory maybe? Their presence doesn't prove anything anyway. We're talking absolute proof and that would be looking at things like telemetry and verifying that everything is its expected state. Hell they basically have as it's been run through simulators and demonstrated over and over that it was able to accomplish this inside of realistic physics engines! So that to me alone is proof positive that it would be absolutely foolish to even attempt to fake it. They could do it, they knew it, and that's exactly what they did. Human beings stood on the Moon that day. Full stop.

The presence of a man-made object carefully placed on the surface of the moon would be definite proof of a manned landing. I'm not saying the landing was fake, I'm just asking what would be the hard proof that the public could actually verify through first hand observation.

 

When this happened, we watched it. We watched it on tube tvs. We didn't have DSP and fake electronic techniques.

Look at the sci-fi movies at the time.

That's what we had for media effects.

 

The presence of a man-made object carefully placed on the surface of the moon would be definite proof of a manned landing. I'm not saying the landing was fake, I'm just asking what would be the hard proof that the public could actually verify through first hand observation.

Again, would you consider high resolution images of the landing sites taken by the probes of foreign agencies definite proof?

 

What would be needed to do a practical test if these reflectors exist and if they work as intended?

The reflect incoming laser beams back at the same direction they came from. The beam disperses over the half million mile journey, so power level received back on Earth would be very low.

Getting back to my earlier comment, can the remains of the landing by seen through a telescope?

No. Even the Hubble couldn't resolve any Apollo artifacts.

 

How about tracks on the moon?

https://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/LRO/news/apollo-sites.html

 

WOW this is amazing. So many electronics experts here on this site saying it can't be done or it never happened.
Whether or not it did or didn't...It worked!
Brzrkr

 

definite proof?

I'll accept the anecdotal information I personally received from several people who worked on the Apollo project as proof enough for me. Do you really think you could guarantee the silence of the thousands who worked on that project in order to pull off a cover-up??? The USSR and it's Gulags couldn't pull that one off. Then there was "Uncle" Willie who swore he had been to the place in New Mexico where they filmed it all and that every time they launched a rocket from Canaveral it was aimed right over Rhooshya just to keep them on their toes.

 

The reflect incoming laser beams back at the same direction they came from. The beam disperses over the half million mile journey, so power level received back on Earth would be very low.


No. Even the Hubble couldn't resolve any Apollo artifacts.

Since the moon is about 250,000 miles from the earth (and there is a lot of background vibration) it is almost impossible to hit the target by aiming a laser directly at it. So it seems that the laser beam would have to move through a "sweeping" motion in order to hit the target on just an incidental basis. Is the reflector made like the tail lights on car (with indented pyramids) so light from any direction is reflected 180 degrees?

 

I'll accept the anecdotal information I personally received from several people who worked on the Apollo project as proof enough for me. Do you really think you could guarantee the silence of the thousands who worked on that project .

95% of NASA personnel would believe it happened ....

But this is missing the point , you don't have to accept 'anecdotal information' or believe anyone ... the information is all out there ...

True scientists would relish the challenge of examining the information for themselves and getting to the truth ... The first obstacle is even considering the idea that it could have been faked ...

It's all on Youtube

 

Troll alert...

 

95% of NASA personnel would believe it happened ....

You talk about scientists and data. Where are your data?

But this is missing the point , you don't have to accept 'anecdotal information' or believe anyone ... the information is all out there ...

True scientists would relish the challenge of examining the information for themselves and getting to the truth ... The first obstacle is even considering the idea that it could have been faked ...

It's all on Youtube

Please, don't lecture us about what "true" scientists would do and then back up your arguments with "facts" from YouTube. That's what might be called an oxymoron.

You have already proved what you are.

 

Is the reflector made like the tail lights on car (with indented pyramids) so light from any direction is reflected 180 degrees?

That's my understanding of retro-reflector.

 

What would be needed to do a practical test if these reflectors exist and if they work as intended?

Would they reflect visible light (from a laser) or microwaves? Back in the 1960s, radar transmissions were reflected by the moon. which is about 2500 miles in diameter. But a small object placed on the surface would be very difficult to detect. Getting back to my earlier comment, can the remains of the landing by seen through a telescope?

How about looking up the ongoing Lunar Laser Ranging experiment that has been ongoing for fifty years now.

And, no, none of the man-made objects on the moon are resolvable with any Earth-based optical telescope.

 

Since the moon is about 250,000 miles from the earth (and there is a lot of background vibration) it is almost impossible to hit the target by aiming a laser directly at it.

The use a large telescope to aim and receive the laser beam. Aiming isn't a problem because the beam is 7km in diameter when it gets to the moon and the reflected beam diameter is 20km.

https://www.lpi.usra.edu/lunar/missions/apollo/apollo_11/experiments/lrr/