Starliner Launch with NASA Astronauts!

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nsaspook

Joined Aug 27, 2009
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Let make a deal, let's focus on the managerial incompetence and lack of quality control at Boeing that years ago and since has allowed a once good company to become a meme for bad products.
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Complaining about DEI in a independent compliance monitor is IMO thinking they might whip Boeing too hard (they earned it) instead of being allowed to pick a more 'friendly' to Boeing monitor.
As usual IMO, DEI is a sideshow 'squirrel!' for what's really happening.
 

joeyd999

Joined Jun 6, 2011
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As usual IMO, DEI is a sideshow 'squirrel!' for what's really happening.
Yeah, it's a sideshow, one among many that add up to what's really happening.

But when you hire people based on characteristics other than competence, don't be surprised when your workforce turns out the be incompetent.
 

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nsaspook

Joined Aug 27, 2009
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Yeah, it's a sideshow, one among many that add up to what's really happening.

But when you hire people based on characteristics other than competence, don't be surprised when your workforce turns out the be incompetent.
Sure, I'm all for hiring people based on competence (defined based on the job, there might be other critical factors like a world war).
https://secure.boeingimages.com/archive/3-Women-Working-at-Douglas-During-WWII--2F3XC5PNV74.html
Women workers on a B17

Boeing has always loved to hire veterans and there are a lot of minorities in the vet community.

When it comes to hiring someone to monitor incompetence at the level of the current Boeing, that should be a fairly easy selection process.
 
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ericgibbs

Joined Jan 29, 2010
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hi,
I have grateful WW2 memories of Boeing being a Great Company, when the 'chips' were down.
:)
E.

The Boeing Company designed the B-17 Flying Fortress bombers during the 1930s. The B-17 was designed by a team of engineers led by E. Gifford Emery and Edward Curtis Wells. The prototype, known as the Model 299, was first flown on July 28, 1935.

The B-17 was a heavy bomber that was a key weapon system in World War II. It was designed in response to a 1934 Army Air Corps specification for a four-engined bomber. The B-17 was a sturdy aircraft that could carry large bomb loads, defend itself, and absorb a lot of battle damage. It was also able to fly higher and longer than any other aircraft at the time.

The B-17's name came from a Seattle Times reporter who described it as a "15-ton flying fortress" in a picture caption after seeing the large number of machine guns on the aircraft. The Boeing Company trademarked the name "Flying Fortress".

Between 1936 and 1945, Boeing built 12,731 B-17s. The B-17 was a symbol of the United States' air force and power during the war.
 
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nsaspook

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Bad example.

Today, those women would be placed on the front line.

Because they're women.
Newbies were always cannon fodder.

You never know who is really incompetent until you give them a chance to prove it one way or the other.
 
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nsaspook

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https://blogs.nasa.gov/spacestation/2024/10/26/nasas-spacex-crew-8-astronaut-returns-to-houston/
NASA’s SpaceX Crew-8 Astronaut Returns to Houston
After an overnight stay at Ascension Sacred Heart Pensacola in Florida, the NASA astronaut was released and returned to NASA’s Johnson Space Center in Houston Saturday. The crew member is in good health and will resume normal post-flight reconditioning with other crew members.
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To protect the crew member’s medical privacy, specific details on the individual’s condition and identity will not be shared.
I'm sure this didn't happen. :eek:

 
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panic mode

Joined Oct 10, 2011
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Boeing used to be totally awesome. But those days are over. they cannot seem to get anything right anymore. things are falling apart left and right, planes, satelites... and it is not just hardware that dies, same mysterious deaths surround Boeing whistleblowers. maybe coincidence but considering secrecy about anything about them, i am not on Boeing bandwagon any more, nowadays i am actively seeking out flights that do not involve Boeing craft.
 

WBahn

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You do wonder at what point these two will decide that enough is enough. There WILL be that point, but my guess is that they haven't reached it yet (which is not to say that they don't have ambivalent feelings about some aspects of things).

I wonder if they were able to vote in the election (and a host of other things that normally require some kind of physical presence or interaction)?
 

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nsaspook

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IMO Sounds bogus as a practical solution. (about 1 part to 4 helium to combustion gases) means carrying a ton of He in a compressed gas form in some sort of high pressure tank. The cryogenic liquid temp for He is (−452.20 °F; 4.15 K) so it must be high pressure He gas storage to be even close to practical.

https://cryo.gsfc.nasa.gov/introduction/liquid_helium.html
Introduction to Liquid Helium
 
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