Solenoid control

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Xefro

Joined Dec 17, 2014
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Hey guys, I have a 12v negative triggered solenoid that I need to power.

When the solenoid receives the ground signal I need it to go to full voltage for 2 seconds and then drop down to 400hz 60% duty cycle until the ground signal is removed to avoid burning up the solenoid.

What would be the best way to accomplish this?
 

MikeML

Joined Oct 2, 2009
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Do you mean that you want to apply 12Vdc to the solenoid for the first two seconds, and then reduce the current through the solenoid to 60% of the initial current?

All you have is one input? What is it? A switch contact to ground?
 

Thread Starter

Xefro

Joined Dec 17, 2014
5
Do you mean that you want to apply 12Vdc to the solenoid for the first two seconds, and then reduce the current through the solenoid to 60% of the initial current?

All you have is one input? What is it? A switch contact to ground?
Correct on both accounts.
 

MikeML

Joined Oct 2, 2009
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Here is how I would do this:

The simulated "switch to ground" closes at 0.1s, and opens at 4.1s.

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This shows a close up of the solenoid current during PWM. Note the freq, duty cycle, and average current... I used 6Ω as the solenoid resistance, so the current initially is 2A. 1.27/2 is 63% during PWM.

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blocco a spirale

Joined Jun 18, 2008
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If all you want is to ensure that the solenoid receives full power to fire initially and then reduced power to hold it in place without burning out; you could try fitting an 8 Ohm 10W resistor paralleled with a large >=10,000uF electrolytic capacitor, in series with the solenoid.
 

MikeML

Joined Oct 2, 2009
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If all you want is to ensure that the solenoid receives full power to fire initially and then reduced power to hold it in place without burning out; you could try fitting an 8 Ohm 10W resistor paralleled with a large >=10,000uF electrolytic capacitor, in series with the solenoid.
It will take a huge capacitor, and then the current profile is still an RC time constant, where it spends very little time near the peak current. Also, R1 has to be a 10W resistor (also huge).108c.gif
 

MaxHeadRoom

Joined Jul 18, 2013
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This is presumably a AC solenoid? why can't you use a DC solenoid and avoid the burn out problems, an AC solenoid should normally never see a reduced voltage.
Max.
 

blocco a spirale

Joined Jun 18, 2008
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Yes, I believe I already said the resistor should be rated at 10W, which I would not consider "Huge", Nor would the capacitor be "Huge" due to its low voltage rating.

It's just a suggestion, something the OP could try if he just wants a simple solution rather than an electronics project.
 
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