the effects are not known?

Some are, some aren't. The SAR (Specific Absorption Rate) is known or interpolated for various frequencies.

 

Even a minor change in frequency can open up a whole new can of worms.

 

what are the effects of a couple of milliwatts on for a short burst at 450 mhz? how does that compare with frs radios with the antenna held against your head at up to 5 watts? with a longer transmitting time.

 

Consider this ...microwaves cook you food ...

You can not absorb too much power from microwaves without feelimg the effects from being cooked.

SAR has factors.

At nuclear resonant frequencies, you can get leukemia. Of course that coul manifest itself twenty years after the
event that csused it. Vacuum tubes operating at 15kv and up has the bresemhauser effect and that excitation of the electrons can cause leukemia, if you are exposed for a long time. There was one section in a transmitter the produced 3 rems per hour....and just for your info, you shouldnt be exposed to more than 3 rems per year i believe.

Look for the studies on radiation hazzards. You will find the, and yet, the political will th address them is forever absent.

 

conciderthe effects of microwave cooking, several hundret to a thousand watts confined in a tight space has more effect than a few miliwatts at a distance. also, there are no residual effects from microwave cooking, the food is not radioactive. that 15 kw transmitter is quite a frew orders of magnatude from the littke data transmitter in the wattmeter.

 

From what I've read on a spec sheet somewhere, a smart meter would have a transmitting power of up to 1.6W max.

Power density , according to several sources and measurements are about 5 to 10uW/cm2 or 50 to 100mW/m2

Emission limits apparently only take into account the thermal effects of radiation (like in a microwave oven). Some people believe there might be negative longterm effects on your health which have nothing to do with thermal effects. Like sleep deprivation, hormonal changes etc...

BUT I don't see a smart meter making a difference. We have been exposed for years now to ever increasing levels of wireless communications.

 

The same idiots that worry about smart meter radiation run around all day with a cell or smart phone shoved against their ear. They obviously never heard of the inverse-square law!

 

The same idiots that worry about smart meter radiation run around all day with a cell or smart phone shoved against their ear.

Or nuts.

Here is a story filled with "common sense". A crazy woman in our neighborhood decided to raise her children as gluten free vegetarians - just because it will be better for the children. They don't have wifi in their house because of the possible side-effects of radiation. She doesn't use a microwave because the radiation kills all of the nutrients in the food. Then at a pool party, she was seen with a cell phone laying on the side of her baby's head so she could play candy crush with one hand while breast feeding.

 

Microwave ovens can leak .... your assumption that all waves are enclosed can be incorrect. If the safety interlocks failed, they can be energized with the door open. With an open door, where do you think those RF waves are heading?

Before being named microwave ovens they were named radar ranges. Radar, a WWII invention, has been studied enough with plenty of warnings about that hazard.

 

I had a job fixing microwave ovens in 1973. If the door gasket is good, you can measure some radiation at the corners of the door. Four inches away it's down about 90% and 12 inches away it's undetectable with the meter I was issued by Amana.

Just a heads up. Keep your heads up from the microwave oven by at least 12 inches (1/3 of a meter).
This should also work with Smart meters. Stay at least 12 inches away from them.

 

once again, a question of scale. the "smart meters" runhow much power, and the microwave ovden how much? how much power was used in the tests of leakage? the difference between a smart meter and microwave oven? like getting run over by a snail or a battleship.

 

I agree that microwaves can leak and I mentioned that above. Apple and Samsung recommend keeping the phone 0.5 to 0.75 inches from skin. It is hard to stay within a foot of a smart meter so, no worries.

 

once again, a question of scale. the "smart meters" runhow much power, and the microwave ovden how much? how much power was used in the tests of leakage? the difference between a smart meter and microwave oven? like getting run over by a snail or a battleship.

Thanks, funny snail vs battleship.

 

Here's some reading material for those interested.

Evaluating Compliance with FCC
Guidelines for Human Exposure to
Radiofrequency Electromagnetic Fields

 

A little light reading, I'm sure.

 

and distance is in the equation used for determining rf safety, as well as frequency and duty cycle.

 

Cripes seriously?


The whole change over to smart meters is primarily just so that the electric companies can do direct reading of any of their customers electrical usage without having to call them or have to mail them a monthly bill then wait until they send it back or send out their own people go around manually reading meters. That is what the meters are for. Financial savings and a combination of both company and customer convenience which is at the other end of their business that never gets reported about in the news.


As far as my having a smart meter on my residence I like it because my power company has their smart meter systems all set up so that I can go on line and see exactly what my power consumption is over any period of time in as small as 15 minute intervals which BTW is they typical time between when their system pings my meter for a reading.


Simply put if they don't ping your meter it does not send any signal out. It's that simple and as far as that signal goes its not a direct RF over the air signal but a hard line type sent directly over their own wiring systems back to them. Or at least that's how our local power company engineers explained it to me and since they are average people who live and work just like me I tend to believe them.

 

The most costly portion of any company is LABOR. Smart meters that report back to the company relieves the company of whoever use to perform that labor. That includes the support staff that enters the usage into the database ... if they hadn't been replaced with a smart device that the former employee (meter reader) used.