Simple voltage follower - not working

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bstdms

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Hi,

Thank you for your time in advance.
I tried to simulate the action of a silicon photomultiplier(SiPM) using a second-order RC circuit and it worked well. The output voltage is named sipm and is shown as the red curve in the plot pane.
Then I wanted to connect this output to a voltage follower using the component UniversalOpAmp2 provided by LTSpice. The output Vo is supported to be the same as sipm, however, I got the green curve, which seemed to be shaped by a filter. May I ask why I got the curve and which part did I do wrong?

Many thanks.
Sho

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wayneh

Joined Sep 9, 2010
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Without investigating details and purely speculating, could it be that the op-amp slew rate is too slow for this? Try slowing down the sipm curve and see whether the op-amp does a better job of following.
 

crutschow

Joined Mar 14, 2008
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I got the green curve, which seemed to be shaped by a filter
Op amps have a limited frequency response, which is likely the cause of what you are seeing.
It's determined by the slew-rate and gain-bandwidth value of the op amp, which is 10MHz for that model.
You would need a much high gain-bandwidth to accurately reproduce that fast signal.
How much accuracy do you need?
 
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WBahn

Joined Mar 31, 2012
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Hi,

Thank you for your time in advance.
I tried to simulate the action of a silicon photomultiplier(SiPM) using a second-order RC circuit and it worked well. The output voltage is named sipm and is shown as the red curve in the plot pane.
Then I wanted to connect this output to a voltage follower using the component UniversalOpAmp2 provided by LTSpice. The output Vo is supported to be the same as sipm, however, I got the green curve, which seemed to be shaped by a filter. May I ask why I got the curve and which part did I do wrong?

Many thanks.
Sho

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If you look at the initial rise of the opamp output, it goes up 12 mV in 10 ns. That's an average of 1.2 V/µs. The true slope is a bit higher than that, but those numbers are pretty typical slew rate limits for general purpose opamps. To track that signal, you are going to need an opamp with a minimum slew rate better than 100 V/µs and you might need one considerably faster than that.
 

WBahn

Joined Mar 31, 2012
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I see it going up 54mV in an isstant, way under 1 nsec. It is too steep to actually read the time axis.
You are looking at the wrong signal. The opamp output is the green signal. It goes from 0 V to about 12 mV in about 10 ns.

The initial slope of the opamp output is perhaps 2x or 3x that average.
 
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