Shipping madness ...

Jon Chandler

Joined Jun 12, 2008
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I had a shipment of board from JLC while we were hiding out from Covid (warm enough to eat outside, taking it seriously, etc.). When the DHL driver showed up, he demanded payment of duty charges. When I asked for an invoice he mumbled something, pointed to some numbers scribbled on the box and held out his hand. Never did find out if it was legit.
 

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cmartinez

Joined Jan 17, 2007
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I had a shipment of board from JLC while we were hiding out from Covid (warm enough to eat outside, taking it seriously, etc.). When the DHL driver showed up, he demanded payment of duty charges. When I asked for an invoice he mumbled something, pointed to some numbers scribbled on the box and held out his hand. Never did find out if it was legit.
That's happened to me before too ... I did pay for the fee, but I later called DHL for confirmation and it turned out to be true, after all. But I pointed at their lack of professionalism and formality. To this day, they still maintain that rather informal practice.
 

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cmartinez

Joined Jan 17, 2007
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Mexico has just suspended delivery of mail letters and packages to the U.S. until the tariff situation becomes clear ... just like many other European countries ...
 

SamR

Joined Mar 19, 2019
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I was looking at the tariffs because considering buying some rf gear from Japan. No tariffs on XCVRs, circuit boards, and components electronics made in Japan! IF they are actually made IN Japan. Lots of Japanese name brand stuff (like US) now made in china as well. The key words are "Made In". Apparently, there is a lot of cheating going on as to actual country of origin.
 

SamR

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dl324

Joined Mar 30, 2015
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Maybe the change will be backed out when people learn what it means to them personally and they make their feelings known.

Some small American business owners are thinking it levels the playing field for them because it makes them more competitive with foreign companies selling the same products direct to American consumers.
 

Jon Chandler

Joined Jun 12, 2008
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Some small American business owners are thinking it levels the playing field for them because it makes them more competitive with foreign companies selling the same products direct to American consumers
Yeah, they think it's great, until they have to import materials or buy machinery that is only available overseas. One US company that makes knives was raving about how good "made in the USA" business was going. It was going so well that they needed to buy a new precision sharpener. Only available from Germany, costing several hundred thousand dollars. Now those tariffs they were so happy about are suddenly unfair. "We shouldn't have to pay exorbitant tariffs! We're building things in the US!"
 

Jon Chandler

Joined Jun 12, 2008
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From Olimex (full press release linked below):

The issue is that we are now required to collect all taxes and tariffs on U.S. shipments in advance. However, there is no functioning calculator for this, which has created chaos. Parcels are being held in customs for weeks due to unreasonable requirements. For example, importers must declare the exact amount of steel, copper, and aluminum IN products, with a 100% tariff applied to these materials. This makes little sense—PCBs, for instance, contain copper traces, but the quantity is nearly impossible to estimate.
https://olimex.wordpress.com/2025/0...ve-to-temporary-suspend-the-shipments-to-usa/
 

SamR

Joined Mar 19, 2019
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Wow, certificate of authenticity listing each component used in construction and the origin of each of its chemical elements?!?!?! Now even I am confused! LOL
 

BobTPH

Joined Jun 5, 2013
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Wow, certificate of authenticity listing each component used in construction and the origin of each of its chemical elements?!?!?! Now even I am confused! LOL
The idea is to stop imported goods from coming in. Still confused?
 

SamR

Joined Mar 19, 2019
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If you look at the link in #29 (which is current) there are specific tariffs for various minerals, ores, and metals depending on country of origin. What I don't see are specific tariffs, for example the origin of bauxite used to produce aluminum used in an automotive body panel. Which is what the CNN article seems to espousing. Not just the metal/alloy made in various countries but the original source of the Bauxite ore used to make the aluminum or the origin of Chalcocite ore used to make the copper wire in a product. This is what the CNN article espouses. Not only that but various goods from various countries have 0% tariffs as per the US International Trade Commision's Harmonized Tariff Schedule. The HTS spells it out completely with the typical government obscuration language.
 

drjohsmith

Joined Dec 13, 2021
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I thought the information on tariffs was pretty clear but here comes CNN muddying the waters. In particular, the tariff info shows that XCVRs, components, and boards from Japan are exempt but CNN says 10-35%! No wonder so many countries are now suspending parcel service to the US in the resounding confusion over elimination of the di minimis act.
End of an era: Billions of packages of ‘cheap’ goods shipped to the US are now subject to steep tariffs
as a European, excuse silly question, but I thought the idea of these tarrifs was to encourage us citizens to purchase us made stuff,
 

dl324

Joined Mar 30, 2015
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as a European, excuse silly question, but I thought the idea of these tarrifs was to encourage us citizens to purchase us made stuff,
That's not a believable motive.

Some things just can't be made in America; like coffee or Japanese trading cards/games.

The tariffs on American automobiles being partially assembled in Canada and Mexico hurts Canadians, Mexicans, and Americans.

In some cases, US made things just cost more than most Americans are willing to pay. The sellers who tried it found out the hard way.

An appeals court just upheld a lower court ruling that the tariffs were illegal. Now the case will go to the Supreme Court.
 
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