Relay coil Set and Reset with momentary switch

Tonyr1084

Joined Sep 24, 2015
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If you want to try using a flip flop, here's one way. It's more involved though than using a toggle switch and passive circuit.
The button is an ordinary momentary NO push button. R3/R6 set the pulse duration.
You can add LED indicators in parallel with each coil to indicated status (as long as it doesn't need to be fail safe).

The CD4013 comes with two FF in a package, so I used one to square up the PB input signal.

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Manjesh Gowda

Joined Oct 19, 2020
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Yes. Across each relay coil. It doesn't matter if the load is energized or not.
But another thing to consider is the possible affect on nearby components.
Its better just to add them and eliminate possible emf affects.
In this case i will be needing 2 diodes for one relay. For set and reset coil right?
 

AlbertHall

Joined Jun 4, 2014
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5V double coil latching has 12.5Ω coils - that's 400mA!
To get a 100mS time constant with that coil would require capacitors of at least 8200uF
 

Tonyr1084

Joined Sep 24, 2015
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5V double coil latching has 12.5Ω coils - that's 400mA!
To get a 100mS time constant with that coil would require capacitors of at least 8200uF
Told you I don't know the math. Albert does. My test was with a 12V coil with 273Ω coil resistance. The 470µF cap I tested with held for about a quarter second. 200mS guesstimate.
 

eetech00

Joined Jun 8, 2013
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If you’re going to respond, why don’t people read the entire thread? I’ve been guilty of this myself, but providing an answer like you’re the grand master expert, an answer which has already been proposed... just grills my hot dog !
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I don't know why they don't read the entire thread..
 

eetech00

Joined Jun 8, 2013
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Why do you want a diode with more that a 50V rating, as there's never more than the supply voltage appearing across it?
The rule of thumb is PIV 10 times the operating voltage but that doesn't mean it won't go higher.
The TS may want to use a higher operating voltage relay for whatever reason (he's already changed it once). Theres no significant cost difference between the two type of diodes. My preference is 1N4004.
 

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Manjesh Gowda

Joined Oct 19, 2020
89
If you want to try using a flip flop, here's one way. It's more involved though than using a toggle switch and passive circuit.
The button is an ordinary momentary NO push button. R3/R6 set the pulse duration.
You can add LED indicators in parallel with each coil to indicated status (as long as it doesn't need to be fail safe).

The CD4013 comes with two FF in a package, so I used one to square up the PB input signal.

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Hey, It would be more helpful for me if u could share this LTspice file. Thank you
 

Tonyr1084

Joined Sep 24, 2015
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Here's a thought: Since the relays will not be live switching, neither would a switch. As long as you get a switch rated for the working voltage across the coil you should be fine. No need for relays or indicators or push buttons or caps or Flip Flops. The switch contacts will be either closed or open. As long as they can handle 40A, you're good to go. And the switch position should be plenty indicator of which position the switch is in.
 

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Manjesh Gowda

Joined Oct 19, 2020
89
Here's a thought: Since the relays will not be live switching, neither would a switch. As long as you get a switch rated for the working voltage across the coil you should be fine. No need for relays or indicators or push buttons or caps or Flip Flops. The switch contacts will be either closed or open. As long as they can handle 40A, you're good to go. And the switch position should be plenty indicator of which position the switch is in.
Yea i considered this option but I could not find the switch which is rated for 40A. I did find few but it was big and doesn't fit on pcb
 
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