Output power in dbm

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Hadia35

Joined May 25, 2017
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If an output of an ic is given 14dBm and it's gain is 13dB. So if an input of 12dBm is applied then what must be it's output ?
 

Papabravo

Joined Feb 24, 2006
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If an output of an ic is given 14dBm and it's gain is 13dB. So if an input of 12dBm is applied then what must be it's output ?
It doesn't work that way. Using dBm means that you have a FIXED reference of 1 milliwatt. If the input was 12 dBm the device would probably be overloaded. The 14 dBm output is obtained with an input of 1 dBm. So 1 dBm plus a gain of 13 dB gets you 14 dBm. Got it?
 

bertus

Joined Apr 5, 2008
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Hello,

When you want to drive an amplifier capable of 14 dBm output and a gain of 13 dB with 12 dBm input, you will likely blowup the amplifier.
If it not gets blowup, a lot of unwanted signal will be present on the output due to the non linearity of the amplifier.

Bertus
 

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Hadia35

Joined May 25, 2017
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It doesn't work that way. Using dBm means that you have a FIXED reference of 1 milliwatt. If the input was 12 dBm the device would probably be overloaded. The 14 dBm output is obtained with an input of 1 dBm. So 1 dBm plus a gain of 13 dB gets you 14 dBm. Got it?
Okay thank you.
 
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Papabravo

Joined Feb 24, 2006
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Hello,

When you want to drive an amplifier capable of 14 dBm output and a gain of 13 dB with 12 dBm input, you will likely blowup the amplifier.
If it not gets blowup, a lot of unwanted signal will be present on the output due to the non linearity of the amplifier.

Bertus
A bit dramatic perhaps. Many amplifiers have overload protection, but your point is well taken
 

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Hadia35

Joined May 25, 2017
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It doesn't work that way. Using dBm means that you have a FIXED reference of 1 milliwatt. If the input was 12 dBm the device would probably be overloaded. The 14 dBm output is obtained with an input of 1 dBm. So 1 dBm plus a gain of 13 dB gets you 14 dBm. Got it?
I am using hmc462lp5 which is an lna . In its data sheet the output power is given 14.5 dBm, 13dB gain and absolute maximum rating of input power which is 18dBm. With these values won't the ic get overloaded ?
 

bertus

Joined Apr 5, 2008
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Hello,

Did you see the specs table?

HMC462_specs.png

With 12 dBm input and 13 dB gain you will get vey close to the IP3 point and go over the saturation point.

Bertus
 
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