https://www.yahoo.com/news/oregon-just-killed-family-wolves-181546732.html

For a distant outsider like me, it seems sad, but if he had been after my livestock, I would feel differently.

 

We all have to die.

 

We all have to die.

I prefer not to die at the hands of a rifleman hovering overhead in a helicopter.

Granted, the whole timberwolf/gray wolf story is a long and controversial one across all of the northern states.

 

I prefer not to die at the hands of a rifleman hovering overhead in a helicopter.

Granted, the whole timberwolf/gray wolf story is a long and controversial one across all of the northern states.

He could have died slowly in great pain as he was pretty old. An expert from the ODFW ended their lives quickly.
http://dfw.state.or.us/news/2016/03_march/033116.asp

Morgan believes the Imnaha group of wolves could be splitting up and that age and physical condition may be playing a role in the depredation. The alpha male is nearly 10 years old and the alpha female has been known to limp since she first appeared a few years ago. “As wolves grow old, or if they are injured, they are unable to hunt traditional wild prey as they have in the past,” said Morgan. “This could be playing a role in the pack’s recent behavior.”

From the OP link
There is good reason to believe OR4 was cast out of his pack early this year, and his decision to move into livestock calving ground was borne of the need of an old, slowing, and dull-toothed male—no longer able to bring down elk—to fend for his hobbled mate, to whom he was endearingly loyal, and his yearling pups.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/odfw/sets/72157623481759903/

 

I prefer not to die at the hands of a rifleman hovering overhead in a helicopter.

I recommend you do NOT attempt to rustle some cattle in the western states.

I know whenever I traveled down the road and a coyote was seen, typically they were running flat out, because they were always under the gun. Alot of pickups had gun racks with weapons where I was ... including mine.

 

I recommend you do NOT attempt to rustle some cattle in the western states.

I know whenever I traveled down the road and a coyote was seen, typically they were running flat out, because they were always under the gun. Alot of pickups had gun racks with weapons where I was ... including mine.

I've lived in a few states where a Ford F150 without a gun rack is a special order. I know what you mean.

 

I prefer not to die at the hands of a rifleman hovering overhead in a helicopter.

Would you prefer to die in the hidden room under my shop over a period of weeks or more where I laugh maniacally as I toss hungry angry kitties down at you at random intervals?

 

Would you prefer to die in the hidden room under my shop over a period of weeks or more where I laugh maniacally as I toss hungry angry kitties down at you at random intervals?

A few more reasons not to live in NoDak again.

 

The kitties thing put it over the top didn't it?

 

The kitties thing put it over the top didn't it?

I've been afraid of your avatar for a long time. Let's start with that.

 

I prefer not to die at the hands of a rifleman hovering overhead in a helicopter.

For all that - a violent death is, as a rule, far kinder than a natural one!!!

Best regards
HP

 

For all that - a violent death is, as a rule, far kinder than a natural one!!!

Best regards
HP

It depends. I've witnessed several natural deaths. Some slip away quietly and some more labored and painful in the last days/hours. A wolf in the wild will usually go out with some glory - look for another pack to rumble with. It isn't slow. The wolf in post #1 was part of a lone pack (only pack to cross a river) so he may have gone out slowly.

http://www.wolfsongnews.org/news/Alaska_current_events_3015.html

 

I used to have livestock. Answer is to make strong and secure fencing (min 5ft high). That way nothing gets in and there is never a need to go and kill other animals who where feeding.

 

I used to have livestock. Answer is to make strong and secure fencing (min 5ft high). That way nothing gets in and there is never a need to go and kill other animals who where feeding.

This is open pasture in the high desert. Not many fences to keep in or out wild game or predators.
https://www.google.com/maps/@45.5343942,-118.3415941,293942m/data=!3m1!1e3

 

Well better put some fencing in then.

 

Well better put some fencing in then.

That would raise the price of beef, cause people to eat less beef, get healthier, need less Lipitor, cause Healthcare companies to be less profitable, cause my Vanguard Health Care mutual fund in my retirement plan to grow at a less rapid rate, causing me to have to work longer before I retire (and at the same time causing me to live longer as a result of eating less beef and furthering my need to work longer to pay for my additional time as a retiree).

So, if you haven't figured it out already, That is a crazy idea!

 

It has to do with amount of land. There are ranches in the USA it takes over a day to drive across. These are vast open spaces.

 

Well better put some fencing in then.

This is a better option.

 

@GopherT

Haha, funny thing is that I dont eat beef (neither does my family). The reason was logical at the time but not anymore: Ever since there where outbreaks of CJD mum became phobic of beef and ever since has avoided ALL beef products (including gelatine).

In the UK, DEFRA has a very specific policy for this type of incident (for example if someones dog gets into your field and eats your chicken). People must control their animals and not let them get into farm areas and livestock areas but at the same time those who are responsible for the farm areas must ensure adequate protection so that animals cannot get in.

So for example, you are withing your rights to take out a fox or dog if they are eating your chickens but if you dont have fencing you can face jail time for killing the attacking animal.

 

@Wendy

That is not a good enough reasons. Plus no animal needs THAT amount of roaming space. Here in the UK we have sheep and cows, they seem to cope with what they have and their areas are all fenced. Plus in these ranches they could make....smaller areas!