op amp circuit

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Seema01

Joined Jan 11, 2020
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This is the circuit I'm working on....Can you explain how does this circuit work... I/p of the op amp at pin 2 varies from 0.05-0.6V and o/p varies from 5.6mV-6mV at pin 6. What is the output of the transistor??
What is the role of transistor Q1 ?? My circuit is not working because my I/p at pin 2 varies from 0.7-2.7V and o/p from 6.0-9.7mV....what's happening?? how does vs2 affect the output???
 

ci139

Joined Jul 11, 2016
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? can you re-post the revised circuit showing it's INPUT OUTPUT and ALL the power supplies (your previous schm. at post #1 did not show the op Amp supply) . . .
? is there an INPUT or it suppose to be a function generator of some sort . . . which i doubt as the non-inverting input of the op amp is at the signal ground (and there is a DC path from output of the op amp to it's inverting input pin + a DC-path from there to signal ground)

the elements of the feedback chain
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RC_time_constant + https://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/rc/rc_1.html
22k 1nF ~ "5+"RC ~ 2πRC = 138µs (has an integrating effect below ! 3.6kHz !)
500p in series with (2x 100n) = 499pF 100Ω ~ 313ns (1.6MHz)
33kΩ
22kΩ + 2x LED (2x 1.6V = 3.2V ~300µA on) "switches on" above 3.2V+22k·300µ ~ 9.8V but, starts conducting signifficantly likely from 10...100µA 0.7V+3.2V = 3.9V
...
i missed the C19 4.7nF -- it integrates the currents at inverting input . . . sets the "primary AC responce" gain to about 1:10 (along with the 500pF) basically it attenuates any output noise . . . but it also may cause oscillations at some conditions

if the input signal entry point and shape and amplitude are unknown it's hard to predict anything else
 
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ci139

Joined Jul 11, 2016
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for the ~AC.sine chain :
±Vs — [ r ] — Vx — [ R ] — --||-C---|> GND
applies :
\[r=aR\ ,\ A={\left({a+1}\right)}^2-1\\ \frac{Vx}{Vs}=\frac1{\sqrt{1+\frac A{1+\frac1{{\left({2\pi RCf}\right)}^2}}}}\]
the derivative by by \(f\) (frequency) gives you the frequency of the fastest change of the above function say it's \(f\left({f}\right)\) then
\[f'\left({f}\right)=\frac{-A}{{\left({1+\frac A{1+\frac1{{\left({2\pi RCf}\right)}^2}}}\right)}^{\frac32}·{\left({1+\frac1{{\left({2\pi RCf}\right)}^2}}\right)}^2·{\left({2\pi RC}\right)}^2·f^3}\]
 
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Seema01

Joined Jan 11, 2020
58
? can you re-post the revised circuit showing it's INPUT OUTPUT and ALL the power supplies (your previous schm. at post #1 did not show the op Amp supply) . . .
? is there an INPUT or it suppose to be a function generator of some sort . . . which i doubt as the non-inverting input of the op amp is at the signal ground (and there is a DC path from output of the op amp to it's inverting input pin + a DC-path from there to signal ground)

the elements of the feedback chain
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RC_time_constant + https://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/rc/rc_1.html
22k 1nF ~ "5+"RC ~ 2πRC = 138µs (has an integrating effect below ! 3.6kHz !)
500p in series with (2x 100n) = 499pF 100Ω ~ 313ns (1.6MHz)
33kΩ
22kΩ + 2x LED (2x 1.6V = 3.2V ~300µA on) "switches on" above 3.2V+22k·300µ ~ 9.8V but, starts conducting signifficantly likely from 10...100µA 0.7V+3.2V = 3.9V
...
i missed the C19 4.7nF -- it integrates the currents at inverting input . . . sets the "primary AC responce" gain to about 1:10 (along with the 500pF) basically it attenuates any output noise . . . but it also may cause oscillations at some conditions

if the input signal entry point and shape and amplitude are unknown it's hard to predict anything else
How did you conclude that c19 is integrating current??? So its a current amplifier. How do you differentiate between a current and a voltage amplifier. The pin 7 of op amp is connected to 12V. Input varies from 0.05-0.5V at pin 2.
 
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