op amp circuit

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Seema01

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Can someone decipher the circuit attached. What will the voltage be at pin 2. Output at pin 6?? is current getting amplified here?
 

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Papabravo

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The circuit will try to make the voltage at pin 2 equal to the voltage at pin 3. that would be ground. That drawing is probably the worst hot mess I have ever seen. What is getting amplified is the voltage difference (pin3 - pin 2)
 
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OBW0549

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Can someone decipher the circuit attached.
No. That has to be one of the most chaotic, messiest schematic diagrams I've ever seen. If you expect anyone to make a serious attempt at answering your questions, re-draw it NEATLY without running wires to and fro all over the place.

That said, I doubt this circuit will do much of anything at all given the screwball way you've got the 741's balance pins connected.
 

atferrari

Joined Jan 6, 2004
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You are right Carl, but I do not know why is so frequent seeing such awful schematics prepared with that software.

I use Corel Draw and patience. Not much time anyway.
 

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Seema01

Joined Jan 11, 2020
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I think the problem with the wires all over the place on the schematic is because it was drawn with Multisim.
I tidied up the schematic and pointed out the problem with the input offset voltage adjustment pin.
Thank you so much for correcting.

The circuit will try to make the voltage at pin 2 equal to the voltage at pin 3. that would be ground. That drawing is probably the worst hot mess I have ever seen. What is getting amplified if the voltabe difference (pin3 - pin 2)
Thank you for your reply. I'm seeing a constant 0.7v at pin 2 while the pot is varying voltage from 0-6V.
 

ci139

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https://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/lm741.pdf pg.7 chp.7.2
if you alter the input bias current from output (in the wrong way) ...
https://www.ti.com/lit/ds/slos094g/slos094g.pdf pg.12 chp.8.1
... then you partially "choke" the input shoulders ... one (more than the other)

if you reduce the vertical differential input amplifier's current -- such may result in
  • elevated DC sensitivity (at the "right" circumstances -- more susceptible to oscillations)
  • lower GBW (frequency response)
  • reduced output SR (slew rate)

the Detailed Model of LM741 Operational Amplifier - YouSpice could be more adequate than the ?unknown response? Multisim variant

 
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Seema01

Joined Jan 11, 2020
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I think the problem with the wires all over the place on the schematic is because it was drawn with Multisim.
I tidied up the schematic and pointed out the problem with the input offset voltage adjustment pin.
There is a mistake in the schematic. The input offset voltage adj pin is connected to pin no.4. But sill the input does not vary and remain stuck at 0.7V.
 

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Seema01

Joined Jan 11, 2020
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https://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/lm741.pdf pg.7 chp.7.2
if you alter the input bias current from output (in the wrong way) ...
https://www.ti.com/lit/ds/slos094g/slos094g.pdf pg.12 chp.8.1
... then you partially "choke" the input shoulders ... one (more than the other)

if you reduce the vertical differential input amplifier's current -- such may result in
  • elevated DC sensitivity (at the "right" circumstances -- more susceptible to oscillations)
  • lower GBW (frequency response)
  • reduced output SR (slew rate)

the Detailed Model of LM741 Operational Amplifier - YouSpice could be more adequate than the ?unknown response? Multisim variant

Thank you for your response. I've assembled the circuit and the actual input reading on pin no. 2 is constant 0.7V
 

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Seema01

Joined Jan 11, 2020
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Sorry 10k is connected between pin 1 and 5. Ok, I'm getting input voltage variation from 0.7-2.7v and output from 6-9.7mV Indeed to change or vary the input from 0.05-0.7mV and o/p from 5.6-6.0mV. what should I change in the circuit?
 
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