New Batteries For EV's

nsaspook

Joined Aug 27, 2009
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https://jalopnik.com/mercedes-ev-explodes-sending-23-to-hospital-1851615220
Mercedes EV Explodes Sending 23 To Hospital
A Mercedes-Benz EQS parked up in an underground car park exploded, releasing toxic smoke into the building above that left 23 in need of hospital treatment

https://koreajoongangdaily.joins.co...fire-in-Geumsan-County-parking-garage/2107075

Yet another EV-related blaze broke out in Geumsan County, South Chungcheong, following a Mercedes-Benz EV explosion in an underground parking lot in Incheon a week ago.
The police have identified the vehicle involved as a Kia EV6 model.

 

joeyd999

Joined Jun 6, 2011
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https://jalopnik.com/mercedes-ev-explodes-sending-23-to-hospital-1851615220
Mercedes EV Explodes Sending 23 To Hospital
A Mercedes-Benz EQS parked up in an underground car park exploded, releasing toxic smoke into the building above that left 23 in need of hospital treatment

https://koreajoongangdaily.joins.co...fire-in-Geumsan-County-parking-garage/2107075

Yet another EV-related blaze broke out in Geumsan County, South Chungcheong, following a Mercedes-Benz EV explosion in an underground parking lot in Incheon a week ago.
The police have identified the vehicle involved as a Kia EV6 model.

Ubiquitous, unpredictable, instantaneous, inexhaustible, inextinguishable, inescapable, deadly.

Legal? Really?

Imagine if firearms really did just go off while cleaning them.

Edit: the perfect terrorist's weapon. Your victim will happily purchase the bomb from you, and drive it to its target.
 
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joeyd999

Joined Jun 6, 2011
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https://www.extremetech.com/cars/fiery-tesla-cybertruck-crash-sparks-federal-investigation
Fiery Tesla Cybertruck Crash Sparks Federal Investigation
The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration wants to know why a Cybertruck burst into flames after hitting a concrete culvert.


That looks like a predator drone strike.
"Contrary to popular belief, EVs are not more likely to catch fire than gas-powered vehicles."

Yebbut, ICEs don't usually deflagrate spontaneously.
 

cmartinez

Joined Jan 17, 2007
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At least for me, now is not the time to even consider buying an EV. I'm sure that the current hazards will eventually be solved and the vehicles made safe and practical. But right now it's as if the EV companies were using their customers as guinea pigs.

Thanks, but no thanks.
 

joeyd999

Joined Jun 6, 2011
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I'm sure that the current hazards will eventually be solved and the vehicles made safe and practical.
I'm not.

The problem lies in energy density and failure modes. The energy has to go somewhere in the case of a fault. It's hard to contain electrons that want out. Ask any lineman.
 

cmartinez

Joined Jan 17, 2007
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I'm not.

The problem lies in energy density and failure modes. The energy has to go somewhere in the case of a fault. It's hard to contain electrons that want out. Ask any lineman.
I'm thinking about solid state batteries. And also research being done on self-extinguishing batteries should be considered. I guess we'll have to wait a few years more and see. I give the market a decade to decide the EV's fate.
 

nsaspook

Joined Aug 27, 2009
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At least for me, now is not the time to even consider buying an EV. I'm sure that the current hazards will eventually be solved and the vehicles made safe and practical. But right now it's as if the EV companies were using their customers as guinea pigs.

Thanks, but no thanks.
Other than batteries exploding and a few mechanical issues the EV is a beast.
 

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MrAl

Joined Jun 17, 2014
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I'm thinking about solid state batteries. And also research being done on self-extinguishing batteries should be considered. I guess we'll have to wait a few years more and see. I give the market a decade to decide the EV's fate.
It's amazing that around 12 states in the USA are banning gas engine cars.
The cutoff is set at 2035 (a bit over 10 years) but there are other cutoffs that mention a percentage like a maximum of 43 percent gas cars by 2027.

There are so many things that have to change so I have to wonder if these 'mandates' are not only real, but do they include ways to accomplish these magical feats. I call them magical because the people who make this stuff up have little idea what is involved in getting things to work and then getting them to market at a reasonable cost.

Maybe this is also why I have read that most people will not own cars in the future they will use ride services.

I might consider buying an EV if they were not so damn expensive.
 

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MrAl

Joined Jun 17, 2014
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No.

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It's not about saving us, it's about controlling us.
If that's true we are in big trouble.
Where I live we already feel the load in the summer months when the line voltage can dip to 90vac when it is supposed to be 120vac. That could stay at 90 to 95vac for several afternoon hours. Sometimes it will only get back up to 100vac and stay that way for several more hours. If it is 110vac I consider myself lucky at that point in time.

Around here it is not only EV charging either, it's the apartment buildings expansion. Within 1 mile of here there have been about 10 new apartment buildings that went up within the past 5 years. That's a LOT of residents that will have to cook, heat, air condition in the summer, etc., and if they have to charge an EV that just makes it even worse.
One guy got so pissed off he burnt down two of the appartement buildings just before they were finished. One of them is still just a pile of burnt up bricks and rebar wire. He got caught of course, but he probably saw the problems with doing that. That's only about 1/2 mile from here too, and they shut off the electric for the whole town when they were fighting the fire.

It's pretty nutty what goes on these days. What happened to the infrastructure bill, it looks like it might only be for roads and bridges. If EV's are being sold then there has to be a grid update no question there.

My solution if it was possible was to go to a full 230vac system. That would immediately increase a lot of the capabilities of the power lines (not all though). It could be hard to manage this though I know.
 

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MrAl

Joined Jun 17, 2014
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No. It was to transfer huge sums of cash to political allies.

Don't get me started -- I'm trying to be on my best behavior.
You'll also get me started :)

This makes me wonder why any country would want to bomb us or any other kind of harm. It's a waste of time and money and manpower. Just wait a little longer till the leaders mess things up even more we'll do it to ourselves slowly but surely.
 

wayneh

Joined Sep 9, 2010
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You'll also get me started :)

This makes me wonder why any country would want to bomb us or any other kind of harm. It's a waste of time and money and manpower. Just wait a little longer till the leaders mess things up even more we'll do it to ourselves slowly but surely.
"We cannot expect the Americans to jump from capitalism to communism, but we can assist their elected leaders in giving Americans small doses of socialism, until they suddenly awake to find they have communism." -- Nikita Khrushchev (maybe)
 
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