What is this stranded copper wires thing sticking out from black electrical tape? Comments needed. I thought it was a THIRD wire going to resistor to ground to operate battery DC electromagnet, that was snipped off. A wire cut usually cuts through insulation + wire same time. A connection has to go to ground to operate the coil. The red + gray wire has ends insulation removed and then covered with spiral wrap black electrical tape. With meticulously careful wrapping of tape, I don't see how a section could be overlooked as just 2 wires only. The whole assembly was pulled up from its base holder after the other ends were disconnected. - (2) #12 copper solid , #14 gray stranded, and one end #14 Red stranded. Do you still think that the tape width could hold 3 bare #14 wires? Do you think that the copper colored strands are actually part of the RED wire , and when the unit was pulled up, the red wire was still there, and pulled out of the tape, AND THEN SNIPPED OFF? Puzzled!

 

Show more of this PC board.

 

The question makes less sense than the picture of something on a computer screen, which does not make any sense at all to me.
Not one bit of sense!!!

The obvious way to know what is wrapped in tape, if it is not some explosive device, is to carefully unwrap it. Carefully wrap the tape around something, such as a disposable water bottle, as you unwrap the tape. THAT will avoid making a mess, and allow for wrapping the item back up after the contents are examined and the question is answered.

Possibly others who have much better mind-reading abilities will be able to provide an answer.

 

The question makes less sense than the picture of something on a computer screen, which does not make any sense at all to me.
Not one bit of sense!!!

The obvious way to know what is wrapped in tape, if it is not some explosive device, is to carefully unwrap it. Carefully wrap the tape around something, such as a disposable water bottle, as you unwrap the tape. THAT will avoid making a mess, and allow for wrapping the item back up after the contents are examined and the question is answered.

Possibly others who have much better mind-reading abilities will be able to provide an answer.

Yeah I would, but my 'Medium" is out for the day

Really we need more info about this in order to help with the question(s).
Several pictures could help a lot, as well as a description of the circuit board.

 

I have not seen any mention of a circuit board, but only a " battery DC electromagnet ", which I am guessing includes a coil of wire. all wrapped up in a ball of black plastic electrical tape that we have not seen. My X-Ray vision is almost as poor as my mind reading, especially at distances.

 

I have not seen any mention of a circuit board, but only a " battery DC electromagnet ", which I am guessing includes a coil of wire. all wrapped up in a ball of black plastic electrical tape that we have not seen. My X-Ray vision is almost as poor as my mind reading, especially at distances.

Question requests comments regarding only the 2 wires coming together with end tape, wire connection only , (not the electromagnet) with burrs as the unknown questionable source. Could that be part of a third wire?

 

Question requests comments regarding only the 2 wires coming together with end tape, wire connection only , (not the electromagnet) with burrs as the unknown questionable source. Could that be part of a third wire?

Please read post #4

 

We need a sharply-focussed full colour image to help understand your problem.

 

Question requests comments regarding only the 2 wires coming together with end tape, wire connection only , (not the electromagnet) with burrs as the unknown questionable source. Could that be part of a third wire?

Hi,

You might as well stop asking questions because nobody knows what you are dealing with yet

POST SOME MORE PHOTOS or describe the unit in question in much, much more detail. If you don't you'll never get an answer that will help you.
Tell us as much as you can about the unit and what it is supposed to be used for. The more info and the more detail the faster you will get help with this.

 

If all of those details were the only part hat needed to be known, then why ask us????
Like many requests where a TS has already decided a solution and is just asking us to make an unworkable choice work.
The fact is that a whole lot is unknown.

To put it in a blunt and rude phrase, "If you have already selected the answer, why as me the question???"

 

If all of those details were the only part hat needed to be known, then why ask us????
Like many requests where a TS has already decided a solution and is just asking us to make an unworkable choice work.
The fact is that a whole lot is unknown.

To put it in a blunt and rude phrase, "If you have already selected the answer, why as me the question???"

Hi there,

I am not sure I agree with that in this case, but I've seen that a LOT both in forums and in real life.
Someone would ask me a question and when I started to give the answer they would blurt out a statement as if they already knew, and unfortunately, they didn't ha ha.
I actually told someone one time that if they already knew then why ask me. It was kind of funny. They never even listened to the answer I was about to give.

I try not to judge too boldly though and give them time to think about what they said and what they asked and what I said. Sometimes it takes people a little time to understand what is being said, so I give them plenty of time to think things over and try not to be too rude about it unless maybe they are very rude to me. On forums like this one this is even more important I think because it takes time to communicate back and forth; we are not sitting right across the table from one another.

 

My statement in post #10 relates to those who ask a question but only show a very small part of the context, very often not allowing us to see the portion of a system that is causing the problem. Very often the place where the results of a failure appear is not the same place as the cause of the problem is located.

ALSO, that is not a part of a circuit board, that is the bottom edge of the video screen, on which the taped up "thing" is displayed. So whatever is covered by the tape is very deliberately hidden from us.
An extra bit of wire sticking out could be anything, since we are not allowed to see the context.

Is it possible that ...............

 

WE have not heard from the TS since MARCH 22. Did I say something that offended the TS???

 

WE have not heard from the TS since MARCH 22. Did I say something that offended the TS???

I was looking for comments, suggestions I had not thought of.
Beginning question only was in reference to the taped up wires joint connection. Looks to me as 2 wires with 3rd stub- (cut off). In original picture the stub frayed "copper" color is there. The one wire is plainly red. If that is what it was. In second picture, later on, in beginning of video, the wires joint had tape removed and re taped up again. The viewers would not see the extra wire fall out during disassembly. Company propriety information. Not all data was released to public. Just another small mystery to solve. The RED wire as coil had no iron core. Therefore just a wire. If stub wire went to ground, then the 13 turns coil was an electromagnet providing magnetic field with core. However, it would still be an electromagnet if the black wire was included, and then to ground. Not only that, the original unit was very carefully finger covered with black tape. I doubt the person was shoddy wrapping the RED wire with exposed frayed copper colored wires. Third option is the 7t red coil other end hooks to a 2nd circuit, so as the source DC volts also runs the other line at the less 34% duty cycle on time. ( Electromagnet 100% on, + red wire circuit on 34% on time)

 

I was looking for comments, suggestions I had not thought of.
Beginning question only was in reference to the taped up wires joint connection. Looks to me as 2 wires with 3rd stub- (cut off). In original picture the stub frayed "copper" color is there. The one wire is plainly red. If that is what it was. In second picture, later on, in beginning of video, the wires joint had tape removed and re taped up again. The viewers would not see the extra wire fall out during disassembly. Company propriety information. Not all data was released to public. Just another small mystery to solve. The black wire as coil had no iron core. Therefore just a wire. If stub wire went to ground, then the 13 turns coil was an electromagnet providing magnetic field with core. However, it would still be an electromagnet if the black wire was included, and then to ground. Not only that, the original unit was very carefully finger covered with black tape. I doubt the person was shoddy wrapping the RED wire with exposed frayed copper colored wires.

The small amount of information along with the blurry pictures that you have given do not give us enough clues to even try to answer the very vague questions you ask. If this is proprietary information, then you should be addressing your questions to the manufacturer of the device.