multi load and wait times for 2 days

Please note that the described difficulty (i.e. minutes long load times and frequent timeouts) presents (and is growing steadily worse) under every browser I've tried
(To wit: Internet Explorer, Chrome, Firefox and Pale Moon) and through various ISPs, devices, physical connections and geographical locations...

Please advise ASAP

Many advance thanks
HP
 
startpage SE.....FF...win10.....cox isp.....PIA vpn.
Thanks!

FWIW the difficulty presents in 'fits and starts' as it were...

Specifically:
Initial loading of the 'frontpage' is often (albeit not always) uneventful while subsequent attempts to open the 'login menu' or follow the 'fora button' (sans login) often result in several minutes delay (typical browser messages being 'waiting for allaboutcircuits.com' or '"performing a TLS handshake cloudflare.com" -- possible paraphrase)...

Once viewing the fora (whether as a guest or logged in) the problem typically presents as proper operation interrupted by ≈ 5 to 10 minute 'episodes' of loading delays and/or timeouts every ≈ 20 to 50 minutes (browser status message at such times being "waiting for allaboutcircuits.com")

Inasmuch as all other areas of the site (i.e. 'articles', etc) appear to load/function properly, it seems the difficulty is exclusive to the fora and 'front page' links...

Best regards
HP
 
That's something. Have never seen that here. Have seen it at other sites due to my tracking and ad blocking software.
That was my first thought -- sadly disabling all 'plugins' and 'extensions' was of no avail:( --- I would have suspected that the problem was entirely on 'my end' but for the fact that I'm experiencing same on multiple devices/OSes/browsers/ISPs and from various locations (albeit within the same geographical region [Spec a ≈ 750 Mi radius of Northeast Mn]) --- Then too, other members (up thread) have described 'strikingly' similar 'symptoms' -- Interestingly --as with the experiance of said members-- it is likewise my observation that AAC is not the sole 'effected' site... That said, it has been my experience that it is --far and away-- the worst effected:confused::(...

Many thanks for your helpful responses!:)
HP
 

WBahn

Joined Mar 31, 2012
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Since AAC isn't the only site that is giving you and other problems, the root cause would appear to probably not be AAC and so the solution is unlikely to be found in anything that the AAC admins can do.

My guess (and that's all it is) is that the AAC forums and these other sites that you are experiencing problems with are stressing the capacity of the data link you are using. I can see that being a real possibility with the forums because there is a LOT of back and forth communication. It used to be that when you typed a post that the editing took place solely on your computer and nothing was transferred to the server until you chose to hit Post Reply. Now, every keystroke is sent to the server, checked, and then sent back before it appears in your text box. As a consequence, there are times when I will hit a key and have to wait a few seconds for it to appear on the screen and if I keep typing at some point I have to stop and wait as what I typed appears at the rate of perhaps one character every couple of seconds. This has its upsides. For instance, it is what allows the immediate boxes that pop up to help you pick a member when you use the '@' symbol to create a tag. It is also what allows you to navigate away from the page and still have what you have typed in the Reply box remain when you come back (though there is apparently a time/length threshold that has to be met in order to get cached). It usually isn't too annoying and, when it is, I just type by reply into a text editor and then copy/paste it into the Reply box.
 

Jazz2C

Joined May 27, 2016
52
@Jazz2C

Please see this thread

Inasmuch as you are in the the same geographical region as myself -- A report of any difficulties (or lack thereof) would be helpful in 'divining' a pattern..

Many advance thanks!
HP
Except for the site taking forever to initially load I haven't had any problems yet today but it was almost impossible to post a few days ago...

So for the benefit of troubleshooters these are my stats:

My physical location is Bloomington, Mn
My VPN is Zenmate (LeaseWeb) routed through Eastern Europe
My OS is Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
My browser is FF 55.0.3 64 bit

Since AAC isn't the only site that is giving you and other problems, the root cause would appear to probably not be AAC and so the solution is unlikely to be found in anything that the AAC admins can do.

My guess (and that's all it is) is that the AAC forums and these other sites that you are experiencing problems with are stressing the capacity of the data link you are using. I can see that being a real possibility with the forums because there is a LOT of back and forth communication. It used to be that when you typed a post that the editing took place solely on your computer and nothing was transferred to the server until you chose to hit Post Reply. Now, every keystroke is sent to the server, checked, and then sent back before it appears in your text box. As a consequence, there are times when I will hit a key and have to wait a few seconds for it to appear on the screen and if I keep typing at some point I have to stop and wait as what I typed appears at the rate of perhaps one character every couple of seconds. This has its upsides. For instance, it is what allows the immediate boxes that pop up to help you pick a member when you use the '@' symbol to create a tag. It is also what allows you to navigate away from the page and still have what you have typed in the Reply box remain when you come back (though there is apparently a time/length threshold that has to be met in order to get cached). It usually isn't too annoying and, when it is, I just type by reply into a text editor and then copy/paste it into the Reply box.
Wbahn tnx!
That makes sense as far as it goes but this is the only site I'm having trouble with. FWIW it's not slow character echoing that's getting me it's page loading. A few days ago just opening the emoji bar took 10 minutes and page transitions got impossible. Since other ppl are having problems with other sites too maybe they have something in common with AAC like protocols or hosting or routing that affects some IP ranges more than others? I understand how it's not really an AAC problem but any help tracking it down will surely be appreciated!:)
 

ScottWang

Joined Aug 23, 2012
7,501
I'm using win7, there is no any big problem here, just sometimes can't easy to get in, but not for long, also within 3~5 minutes, and it happened not very often.

Maybe you can try some other computers or using the virus software to check out.
 

Jazz2C

Joined May 27, 2016
52
I'm using win7, there is no any big problem here, just sometimes can't easy to get in, but not for long, also within 3~5 time, and it happened not very often.

Maybe you can try some other computers or using the virus software to check out.
Tnx!
According to @Hypatia's Protege 's troubleshooting attempts it's not computer or browser specific. But I think it's interesting that Hp and I both have problems even though she doesn't use a VPN and I do. So has AAC made any protocol changes in the last month or so other than the https upgrade?
 

ScottWang

Joined Aug 23, 2012
7,501
Tnx!
According to @Hypatia's Protege 's troubleshooting attempts it's not computer or browser specific. But I think it's interesting that Hp and I both have problems even though she doesn't use a VPN and I do. So has AAC made any protocol changes in the last month or so other than the https upgrade?
Until now only you and HP reported that the loading problem, so maybe the problem was not in AAC, it just maybe, this part maybe can wait for other members to report it, we will report the protocol issue, and have you ever try to clear all the caches of the browsers or using another computer to get on line and login on AAC?
 

bertus

Joined Apr 5, 2008
22,930
Hello,

I also sometimes see the delays, as I said before:

Hello,

@jrap
I also notice that loading pages can take very long.
In my browser I can see the activity.
It says "busy loading from connect.facebook.net" or "busy loading from www.facebook.com" when the loading takes long.
I also sometimes see "waiting for forum.allaboutcircuits.com"

Bertus
It looks like there are also problems with the connected site facebook.

I also noticed it happens with other sites that use a https connection.

Bertus
 

WBahn

Joined Mar 31, 2012
32,883
That's something that didn't twang when you said it before. Since I don't do social media, I only interact directly with AAC. I don't come into it from Facebook or Twitter or however else you can access it. I'm assuming that that's what you mean when you talk about "the connected site facebook"?

So @HP, are you accessing AAC via Facebook or any other site, or coming to AAC directly when you are experiencing these problems?
 

bertus

Joined Apr 5, 2008
22,930
Hello,

I am also connecting directly to the AAC.
It looks like the loading of the avatars from external sites (like facebook) takes long.
(you can see on the page that the avatar is not loaded yet).

Bertus
 
Until now only you and HP reported that the loading problem, so maybe the problem was not in AAC, it just maybe, this part maybe can wait for other members to report it
:confused: Please note that @#12, @BR-549, @shortbus, @Alec_t and @bertus reported the selfsame issue (on this thread) early last month -- That said, it seems @#12 and @BR-549 (at least) are no longer experiencing any difficulty...

have you ever try to clear all the caches of the browsers or using another computer to get on line and login on AAC
Speaking for myself (FWIW) - Yes indeed! -- The difficulty occurs on multiple devices (even immediately following 'fresh' OS installs) and through multiple ISPs, physical connections and, indeed, while 'running naked' (i.e. sans AV software and browser extensions)...

@ScottWang - Inasmuch as it seems all effected parties (with the possible exception of @Jazz2C) has had some degree of similar difficulty on other sites, I concur with Your, @WBahn 's and @Jazz2C 's assertion that the problem is not AAC's 'fault' -- Please know that my posts on this thread are not by way of 'indictment' of AAC - but merely a request for assistance via attempting to descry a 'pattern' Re: the effected users...

But I think it's interesting that Hp and I both have problems even though she doesn't use a VPN
Technically my arrangement is what 'I.T.' terms a 'transparent proxy' such that my apparent ISP 'maps to' 'Airstream' (Hudson, WI) regardless of my physical location -- FWIW my physical location when accessing this site is generally one of (in approximate order of frequency): Duluth, Mn - Thunder Bay, On - Eau Claire, WI - Toronto, ON - Montréal, QC - Seattle, WA - Brussels (Belgium) and various locations in the UK --- Please note that I have attempted 'unproxied' guest access from the first three locations (above) during the past week with the same result...:( -- I apologize that I am less than au fait with routing conventions/terminology:oops:

So @HP, are you accessing AAC via Facebook or any other site, or coming to AAC directly when you are experiencing these problems?
I avoid social networks like the plague - up to and including blockage their 'buttons', 'widgets', etc... I generally login via shortcuts I've placed on my desktop Spec: "http://www.allaboutcircuits.com/" and "https://www.allaboutcircuits.com/login/"...

@BR-549 , @WBahn @bertus @ScottWang @Jazz2C -- Many, many thanks to all of you for your kind assistance in this matter!

Very best regards
HP
 
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ScottWang

Joined Aug 23, 2012
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