Apparently now the USB C charge port standard is mandatory in the UK. Apple pulled it's Lightning phones from the market, from what I read today.
Stories around the web.

 

But all of the folks I see using chargers in public areas all look to be about the same age, and dressed in the same style clothes. And not a single one of them looks to be close to even 30. I never see anybody looking to be a bit older charging in public places.

 

And some of us can manage perfectly well without mobile phones.

 

But all of the folks I see using chargers in public areas all look to be about the same age, and dressed in the same style clothes. And not a single one of them looks to be close to even 30. I never see anybody looking to be a bit older charging in public places.

Not sure what you are trying to say here. What does that have to do with the original post?

 

And some of us can manage perfectly well without mobile phones.

Though it's becoming increasingly difficult to access some services/sites without one.
(Apologies for going off-topic)

 

And some of us can manage perfectly well without mobile phones.

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Though it's becoming increasingly difficult to access some services/sites without one.

Yes one bank I know of would not be able to process a zero interest rate balance transfer without a cell phone in the user's possession.

 

Yes one bank I know of would not be able to process a zero interest rate balance transfer without a cell phone in the user's possession.

Yet the most common source of banking fraud is the mobile phone.

 

I can't think of any better examples of bloatware than USB. It started off as 4 pins, power and a differential data line. Now it has 24 pins, with the capability of power at several different voltages and several data pairs. It wouldn't surprise me if someone invented a version of USB-C for charging electric vehicles.

 

I can't think of any better examples of bloatware than USB. It started off as 4 pins, power and a differential data line. Now it has 24 pins, with the capability of power at several different voltages and several data pairs. It wouldn't surprise me if someone invented a version of USB-C for charging electric vehicles.

Hey I plug my microwave into a USB C port now
We have USB C ports on all the telephone poles now so we can plug our whole houses into the USB C ports outside (ha ha).
Even the power station around here gets their power from a USB C port and distributes it to all the homes in the area

Maybe this belongs in a Jokes thread, but couldn't resist poking fun at the nutty stuff that goes on these days.

Then one day USB C will be long gone and we will then have USB D. You can plug a rocket engine into a USB D port

 

I wouldn't want to be an electricial wiring a whole house with USB-C. Those 24 wires are awfully fiddly when all you have is a quarter-inch-wide screwdriver and a pair of wire cutters with three notches in them from when you once cut through a live cable.

 

Yes one bank I know of would not be able to process a zero interest rate balance transfer without a cell phone in the user's possession.

Santander Bank locally, does not allow me to enter a new beneficiary of a transfer using homebanking but the app in my mobile. Otherwise I must use an ATM somewhere.

 

I wouldn't want to be an electricial wiring a whole house with USB-C. Those 24 wires are awfully fiddly when all you have is a quarter-inch-wide screwdriver and a pair of wire cutters with three notches in them from when you once cut through a live cable.

Been there, done that, seen it.

 

Another triumph for the lazy that do not need even to twist the wrist to plug it in as it works reversed too. Total prostitution of a data cable because everyone in the new masses owns several left from discarded telephones.
Discard phones of hundreds of dollars, keep a dollar cable. To run a desk fan... fed by a laptop port... too much effort to bend down and plug to the wall...

Bankers making more money by forcing their business application* to save in employing personnel. *With their laziness saying just 'app' instead.
It is all about laziness; doing as little as possible earning as much as possible, pushing the customers to do the bank work by massaging keyboards.

This is not good; but smile, tomorrow will be worse...

 

Been there, done that, seen it.

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Our house-wiring cables look like this:

so it leaves three notches so obviously spaced that there's no denying what happened!

 

What a bunch of Luddites.

Why should we be surrounded by dozens of different DC power supplies all doing essentially the same thing that will eventually end up as e-waste (or in my junk box) when one type of power supply can handle all low voltage needs, no matter if the device is made by Apple, Samsung or Leon's garage shop? Imagine if every lamp and appliance in your house had a different proprietary plug? Wouldn't make a whole lot of sense would it?

I have a USB C PD power supply by Apple that can provide 140 watts – maximum 28 volts at 5 amps (currents above 3 amps require a high current cable). I share this power supply, which has the volume of two stacked phones, to power my CPAP, laptop, and to charge my phone. Each device negotiates for the power it needs seamlessly.

Compare that to the "Oh sh*t" moment when you destroy a device by plugging in a center-negative barrel connector, or when you plug in the 12 volt supply into a 5 volt device. I suppose a drawer full of assorted power supplies with indecipherable masking-tape labels makes more sense then realizing your phone is about to die while using your laptop, so you switch the cable from laptop to phone without a worry.

Sorry change is so difficult for some of you.

 

Each device negotiates for the power it needs seamlessly.

I love the optimism! "Seamlessly"! Works perfectly until the next software update, or the next revision of the standard. We've been this way before - how many power tool batteries are in landfill because they can no longer negotiate with their chargers?
I look at the USB-C plug and I don't see a 5A connector - this is a 5A connector:

I also wonder whether the negotiation for power takes into account the wire gauge, or whether the two devices can negotiate themselves into a cable fire.
And can the 5V device be sent 12V down the cable because of a negotiation failure?
Yes, you're right about being a luddite!

 

5 amp cables identify themselves as such to the USB C PD supply

Only 5 volts is delivered unless/until negotiation happens.

USB is backwards compatible. You do not have any USB devices that won't work with current USB standards.

 

I love the optimism! "Seamlessly"! Works perfectly until the next software update, or the next revision of the standard. We've been this way before - how many power tool batteries are in landfill because they can no longer negotiate with their chargers?
I look at the USB-C plug and I don't see a 5A connector - this is a 5A connector:
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I also wonder whether the negotiation for power takes into account the wire gauge, or whether the two devices can negotiate themselves into a cable fire.
And can the 5V device be sent 12V down the cable because of a negotiation failure?
Yes, you're right about being a luddite!

I always thought, and still think, that the whole concept of higher voltages on a single connector IS INCREDIBLY STUPID!!! But, as has been stated by a number of folks, and repeated by me as well: "YOU CAN'T FIX STUPID!!" (administrators, please note that I am commenting on an idea, not individuals).
Not calling people names, but rather pointing out that some concepts are very poorly advised.

 

I always thought, and still think, that the whole concept of higher voltages on a single connector IS INCREDIBLY STUPID!!! But, as has been stated by a number of folks, and repeated by me as well: "YOU CAN'T FIX STUPID!!" (administrators, please note that I am commenting on an idea, not individuals).
Not calling people names, but rather pointing out that some concepts are very poorly advised.

Hi,

We are seeing so much of this these days. It seems many of the people making the decisions for this stuff these days are just stuck in stupid.

My theory is that the people who make these decisions do not use the stuff they design very much themselves on a day to day basis. I bet Bill Gates used an Apple Computer (ha ha) with Apple software, and has an Apple cell phone.