# LiveWave HDTV antenna, is it a scam?

#### wayneh

Joined Sep 9, 2010
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Does anyone have experience with this?

This is one of those gizmos that uses your home's power line wiring to act as an antenna. The advertising feels like a total scam but I know there has been some success with this approach in the past. I doubt it's worth the $35 or whatever they're asking, which would buy a decent real antenna. #### djsfantasi Joined Apr 11, 2010 5,923 I don’t know about this product, but I’ve bought several of these from Amazon (for myself and my children) and we’re all very satisfied. TV Antenna Indoor Digital HDTV Antenna, Lxuemlu 120+ Miles Rang HD Antenna with Detachable Amplifier Signal Booster and 13FT Coaxial Cable​ #### nsaspook Joined Aug 27, 2009 6,707 Thread Starter #### wayneh Joined Sep 9, 2010 16,159 I don’t know about this product, but I’ve bought several of these from Amazon (for myself and my children) and we’re all very satisfied. TV Antenna Indoor Digital HDTV Antenna, Lxuemlu 120+ Miles Rang HD Antenna with Detachable Amplifier Signal Booster and 13FT Coaxial Cable​ Yes, I have a couple of antennas like those. Different brand, but same idea. I'm pretty happy in general although they don't always work as well when the weather is wrong. Thread Starter #### wayneh Joined Sep 9, 2010 16,159 Yes, it works, both as a bad TV antenna and as a way for you to waste$35.
Soooo.... your skeptical of the claims. Me too. I'm still wondering if anyone has tried one. I don't know anyone that has.

#### crutschow

Joined Mar 14, 2008
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It may work if the transmitter is close but, in general, random lengths and arrangement of house main's wires do not make good UHF antennas.
Rabbit ears would likely work better.

#### nsaspook

Joined Aug 27, 2009
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Soooo.... your skeptical of the claims. Me too. I'm still wondering if anyone has tried one. I don't know anyone that has.
Those useless things have been on sale since forever, sometimes in the Comic Book ad pages next to something useful.

I made one as a kid with a 5 cent ceramic cap.

This is a lot better antenna.

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Joined Feb 20, 2016
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When colour TV first appeared here in Australia, some enterprising (con) company started selling TV antennas that were anodized different colours. And, in a similar fashion, "Digital TV Antennas" when we went digital, even with no frequency change.

Power line antennas may sometimes sort off work, but Crustchow has it right.

#### SLK001

Joined Nov 29, 2011
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I made one as a kid with a 5 cent ceramic cap.
You made a Raquel Welch pillow with a 5 cent ceramic cap?

This is a lot better antenna.
For most of the digital channels, it IS a much better antenna (as long as you put a 4:1 BALUN on it). It's a variant of a directional loop antenna.

#### nsaspook

Joined Aug 27, 2009
6,707
You made a Raquel Welch pillow with a 5 cent ceramic cap?
I'd be a rich man if I could do that.