Led bulb problems

geekoftheweek

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Woke up and had a thought. Is your relay grounded through the headlight ground wire or to a body ground or battery itself. A diode acts as a one way valve and with the relay connected to the headlight ground would prevent any power from flowing when the DRLs are active.
If the relay ground is connected to the battery or body ground the diode would drop at least a half a volt across it which would probably be enough to keep the relay from working since with the DRLs it would only be getting around 7 volts to start with. Something didn't add up earlier and I couldn't quite figure it out at the time.
 

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John appleseed

Joined May 20, 2020
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Woke up and had a thought. Is your relay grounded through the headlight ground wire or to a body ground or battery itself. A diode acts as a one way valve and with the relay connected to the headlight ground would prevent any power from flowing when the DRLs are active.
If the relay ground is connected to the battery or body ground the diode would drop at least a half a volt across it which would probably be enough to keep the relay from working since with the DRLs it would only be getting around 7 volts to start with. Something didn't add up earlier and I couldn't quite figure it out at the time.
Yes my relay is grounded straight from the battery terminal. Thats an interesting thought thanks for your input! Whats your advice
 

LesJones

Joined Jan 8, 2017
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Adding a resistor with the same value of resistance as the relay coil in parallel with the headlamp bulb that is connected to the positive supply when in DRL mode will probably solve the problem. That way there will be about 7 volts across each bulb. If you wanted EXACTLY the same voltage across each bulb you would also need a diode in series with the added resistor. The bulb that requires the added resistor will be the one that lights in DRL mode.

Les.
 

geekoftheweek

Joined Oct 6, 2013
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Yes my relay is grounded straight from the battery terminal. Thats an interesting thought thanks for your input! Whats your advice
That actually explains why the left head light goes out when you disconnect the diode. I wasn't visualizing the circuit the right way. Basically the diode isn't actually doing what it was meant to do in the first place. If you wire the relay between the high beam and ground on the headlight itself the diode will act as a one way valve and the relay will only work when your high beams are on, but block power with the DRLs being reverse polarity. By connecting the relay directly to battery ground the diode acts as a voltage drop and your relay is still getting powered, but just not enough now to turn it on as it did before with the DRLs.

Now it makes sense.

As @LesJones mentioned you could possibly add a resistor across the left headlight wires and restore your DRLs, but if you really don't want them then don't bother. You may end up with an under voltage or under current situation and kill the headlights faster in the long run. They are probably designed for 11+ Volts and depending on the regulator design under powering them could make things heat up more than they should.
 

geekoftheweek

Joined Oct 6, 2013
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Actually it may be smart to pull the DRL relay and make a direct connection in it's place if the DRLs won't work on their own with the LED lights. I don't know the laws up north so I'm not going to get into how to do it. You are on your own with that thought.
 

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John appleseed

Joined May 20, 2020
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That actually explains why the left head light goes out when you disconnect the diode. I wasn't visualizing the circuit the right way. Basically the diode isn't actually doing what it was meant to do in the first place. If you wire the relay between the high beam and ground on the headlight itself the diode will act as a one way valve and the relay will only work when your high beams are on, but block power with the DRLs being reverse polarity. By connecting the relay directly to battery ground the diode acts as a voltage drop and your relay is still getting powered, but just not enough now to turn it on as it did before with the DRLs.

Now it makes sense.

As @LesJones mentioned you could possibly add a resistor across the left headlight wires and restore your DRLs, but if you really don't want them then don't bother. You may end up with an under voltage or under current situation and kill the headlights faster in the long run. They are probably designed for 11+ Volts and depending on the regulator design under powering them could make things heat up more than they should.
Those both seem like good solutions. To even go a simpler rout can i pull the fuse? I think itd be fuse 45? Or would that mess with the other components of the circuit?
 

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