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QIK

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hey hope everyone is doing great, my name is QIK

I’m a student working on designing a motor system for an e-bike project. I’m seeking guidance on the best practices for motor control, selecting materials for motor components, and ensuring efficient power management. Specifically, I need advice on:

  1. Motor control strategies: What are the most efficient approaches for controlling an e-bike motor to balance power and speed?
  2. Motor component materials: Which materials are best for lightweight, high-efficiency motor components?
  3. Power management: How can I optimize battery life while ensuring the motor runs efficiently, and what role do power electronics play in this?

Any tips on simulation tools for electromagnetic analysis or resources on embedded software for motor control would also be appreciated. I’d love to collaborate with anyone who has experience in these areas!
 

WBahn

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Aren't these the kinds of things that YOU are supposed to be finding the answers for as part of the work YOU are supposed to do for this school project?
 

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QIK

Joined Nov 10, 2024
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Aren't these the kinds of things that YOU are supposed to be finding the answers for as part of the work YOU are supposed to do for this school project?
Hi WBahn,

Thank you for your reply, but I believe there's been a misunderstanding. As a student working on a complex project, seeking guidance and advice from experienced individuals like yourself is an essential part of my learning process. While I understand that part of my responsibility is to find solutions independently, it's also important to acknowledge the value of collaboration and learning from others who have expertise in areas where I may still be developing.

That said, I'd like to offer a bit of advice in return. It's always better to approach someone with encouragement and support, especially in forums meant for collaboration and growth. Everyone, no matter their level of expertise, can benefit from a positive and open environment where knowledge sharing is encouraged.

Rather than dismissing questions, a more helpful approach would be to offer suggestions or direct the person toward resources or tools that can help them answer their own questions. This builds a more positive community and encourages growth for all participants.

Thanks for your understanding, and I hope this helps improve the way we interact in these spaces.

Best regards,
 

Ya’akov

Joined Jan 27, 2019
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Hi WBahn,

Thank you for your reply, but I believe there's been a misunderstanding. As a student working on a complex project, seeking guidance and advice from experienced individuals like yourself is an essential part of my learning process. While I understand that part of my responsibility is to find solutions independently, it's also important to acknowledge the value of collaboration and learning from others who have expertise in areas where I may still be developing.

That said, I'd like to offer a bit of advice in return. It's always better to approach someone with encouragement and support, especially in forums meant for collaboration and growth. Everyone, no matter their level of expertise, can benefit from a positive and open environment where knowledge sharing is encouraged.

Rather than dismissing questions, a more helpful approach would be to offer suggestions or direct the person toward resources or tools that can help them answer their own questions. This builds a more positive community and encourages growth for all participants.

Thanks for your understanding, and I hope this helps improve the way we interact in these spaces.

Best regards,
Welcome to AAC.

The link provided by @ScottWang offers some advice, and it is good. But to be more pointed about the issue @WBahn was responding to, let me explain what is expected here.

The members of AAC are very happy to help students, many recalling their own time at university and how helpful guidance can make be a very valuable thing. Collectively, the knowledge and experience of AAC’s members represents am amazing resource, and the generosity of individual members who happily spend their own time helping is prodigious.

That said, interactions with strangers such as yourself, and any other person new to the forums here, are necessarily transactional. You have no reputation here, and so—unfortunate as it may be—your identity relies on your membership in the class of “students” and the collective behavior understood by the AAC members over many years and thousands of interactions.

AAC rules circumscribe the permitted sort of help that members may provide to students working on things that will result in academic credit. Unfortunately, many of your fellow students will simply post, for example, verbatim problems without anything else—expecting a solution. This is the worst case scenario.

In a more nuanced situation such as yours, where you are doing research into a complex project, the sort of assistance you might reasonably expect is with specific sticking points you encounter in sorting candidate solutions or refining a selected one. For example, you might say:

I am trying to work out a motor control strategy that will be most efficient for my application, but I am confused about how to balance the requirements. I have considered X and Y, and I am having trouble understanding these specific details…

This is in contrast to your own question, an open-ended one that simply expects suggestions about motor control strategies. Basic research into e-bikes will provide a list of schemes that are used in practice, and there is no reason to ask here for information like that, the way you did. You might even have asked:

I am having trouble locating good resources on selecting motor control strategies, can anyone suggest good sources for that information?

The point being, a post like yours reads like a prompt for ChatGPT, not request for guidance. You will find a lot of invaluable help here, but in the form of helping you learn how to solve the problem at hand for yourself. This will often include specific technical detail, and troubleshooting assistance—but with your solution.

What you wont get here is the solution itself, or even a list of candidates—depending on the nature of the problem to be solved.

Because is it so apt, and not for religious reasons, I will refer to a story from the Torah (the Hebrew Bible). When the Israelites were fleeing Egypt with Pharaoh and his army in hot pursuit, they came to the Yam Suf (the Sea of Reeds, or Red Sea) and were faced with a sea in front of them and the army behind them. Tradition has it that one person, in an act of faith, walked into the water up to their neck. It was at that point the sea parted and the way was made clear for them to cross.

Similarly, though we can’t part seas for you, if you go into your work up to your neck, then come here and ask for help, you will find many people helping you to keep your head above water as you cross your own Yam Suf—and even more importantly, teaching you how to swim so future “bodies of water” become just a chance to exercise.

One more thing: telling someone you are asking for very valuable advice, that is very important to you, that they are “doing it wrong” is a sure way to find yourself persona non grata here. You are young, and have a lot to learn, but the hubris and entitlement that sort of thing projects is really off-putting.

Does that mean that you need to grovel, or that you should expect mistreatment, or that you need to “pay your dues” to be worthy of help? No, absolutely not. But there is an important lesson here about how to act when you are asking for something another is not reasonably obligated to provide.

This little essay, while seemingly tangential, provides the foundation for any interaction where you are sincerely trying to understand something, and possibly convince someone else about your own understanding.

Be very careful not to allow your—undoubtedly organic and not intentional—arrogance prevent you from making connections with people who really can provide invaluable assistance and do so for no compensation save the satisfaction of helping you to succeed at your work and future career.

Every one of us understands—by personal experience—the hubris of youth. One of the things we have learned, to greater or lesser degrees is how much we don’t know, and how important it is to have people who can provide help when we need it.

You might have gotten started here on the wrong foot, but at this point that is easily fixed. You really are welcome to AAC, and simply adjusting your attitude and expectations now will make a future here, getting help and helping others, a reality. Whatever you choose, I wish you the best of luck with this project and future work.
 

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QIK

Joined Nov 10, 2024
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hey hope everyone is doing great, my name is QIK

I’m a student working on designing a motor system for an e-bike project. I’m seeking guidance on the best practices for motor control, selecting materials for motor components, and ensuring efficient power management. Specifically, I need advice on:

  1. Motor control strategies: What are the most efficient approaches for controlling an e-bike motor to balance power and speed?
  2. Motor component materials: Which materials are best for lightweight, high-efficiency motor components?
  3. Power management: How can I optimize battery life while ensuring the motor runs efficiently, and what role do power electronics play in this?

Any tips on simulation tools for electromagnetic analysis or resources on embedded software for motor control would also be appreciated. I’d love to collaborate with anyone who has experience in these areas!
This is for a business project don’t get it twisted and assume it’s for homework or assignments and then respond with a power trip either you’re qualified and confident to join and contribute as a business partner or you can go about your life
 

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QIK

Joined Nov 10, 2024
7
Welcome to AAC.

The link provided by @ScottWang offers some advice, and it is good. But to be more pointed about the issue @WBahn was responding to, let me explain what is expected here.

The members of AAC are very happy to help students, many recalling their own time at university and how helpful guidance can make be a very valuable thing. Collectively, the knowledge and experience of AAC’s members represents am amazing resource, and the generosity of individual members who happily spend their own time helping is prodigious.

That said, interactions with strangers such as yourself, and any other person new to the forums here, are necessarily transactional. You have no reputation here, and so—unfortunate as it may be—your identity relies on your membership in the class of “students” and the collective behavior understood by the AAC members over many years and thousands of interactions.

AAC rules circumscribe the permitted sort of help that members may provide to students working on things that will result in academic credit. Unfortunately, many of your fellow students will simply post, for example, verbatim problems without anything else—expecting a solution. This is the worst case scenario.

In a more nuanced situation such as yours, where you are doing research into a complex project, the sort of assistance you might reasonably expect is with specific sticking points you encounter in sorting candidate solutions or refining a selected one. For example, you might say:

I am trying to work out a motor control strategy that will be most efficient for my application, but I am confused about how to balance the requirements. I have considered X and Y, and I am having trouble understanding these specific details…

This is in contrast to your own question, an open-ended one that simply expects suggestions about motor control strategies. Basic research into e-bikes will provide a list of schemes that are used in practice, and there is no reason to ask here for information like that, the way you did. You might even have asked:

I am having trouble locating good resources on selecting motor control strategies, can anyone suggest good sources for that information?

The point being, a post like yours reads like a prompt for ChatGPT, not request for guidance. You will find a lot of invaluable help here, but in the form of helping you learn how to solve the problem at hand for yourself. This will often include specific technical detail, and troubleshooting assistance—but with your solution.

What you wont get here is the solution itself, or even a list of candidates—depending on the nature of the problem to be solved.

Because is it so apt, and not for religious reasons, I will refer to a story from the Torah (the Hebrew Bible). When the Israelites were fleeing Egypt with Pharaoh and his army in hot pursuit, they came to the Yam Suf (the Sea of Reeds, or Red Sea) and were faced with a sea in front of them and the army behind them. Tradition has it that one person, in an act of faith, walked into the water up to their neck. It was at that point the sea parted and the way was made clear for them to cross.

Similarly, though we can’t part seas for you, if you go into your work up to your neck, then come here and ask for help, you will find many people helping you to keep your head above water as you cross your own Yam Suf—and even more importantly, teaching you how to swim so future “bodies of water” become just a chance to exercise.

One more thing: telling someone you are asking for very valuable advice, that is very important to you, that they are “doing it wrong” is a sure way to find yourself persona non grata here. You are young, and have a lot to learn, but the hubris and entitlement that sort of thing projects is really off-putting.

Does that mean that you need to grovel, or that you should expect mistreatment, or that you need to “pay your dues” to be worthy of help? No, absolutely not. But there is an important lesson here about how to act when you are asking for something another is not reasonably obligated to provide.

This little essay, while seemingly tangential, provides the foundation for any interaction where you are sincerely trying to understand something, and possibly convince someone else about your own understanding.

Be very careful not to allow your—undoubtedly organic and not intentional—arrogance prevent you from making connections with people who really can provide invaluable assistance and do so for no compensation save the satisfaction of helping you to succeed at your work and future career.

Every one of us understands—by personal experience—the hubris of youth. One of the things we have learned, to greater or lesser degrees is how much we don’t know, and how important it is to have people who can provide help when we need it.

You might have gotten started here on the wrong foot, but at this point that is easily fixed. You really are welcome to AAC, and simply adjusting your attitude and expectations now will make a future here, getting help and helping others, a reality. Whatever you choose, I wish you the best of luck with this project and future work.
You’re appreciated for your message but one thing you’re misinformed about is by asking my question those that engage positively and confident in tackling and understanding what I wrote would be addressed for a business proposition I’m hiring people I’m a businessman and a student of knowledge not just one topic those who are fully or equipped enough with the task ahead referenced in my text would be offered a seat at the table of profits gained from the business venture I’m leading simply not as deep as all who are exasperating about
 

Ya’akov

Joined Jan 27, 2019
10,226
You’re appreciated for your message but one thing you’re misinformed about is by asking my question those that engage positively and confident in tackling and understanding what I wrote would be addressed for a business proposition I’m hiring people I’m a businessman and a student of knowledge not just one topic those who are fully or equipped enough with the task ahead referenced in my text would be offered a seat at the table of profits gained from the business venture I’m leading simply not as deep as all who are exasperating about
There is literally no one here interested in your business. It’s not even a credible claim.

Sorry, but I can’t help you, and you will rapidly discover that no one who would be qualified to work with you would do it for a promise of profit sharing. Not even payment up front would be enticement enough to engage with you—for many reasons.

Good luck with whatever you do—but be careful about your posting here, you risk becoming unwelcome.
 

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QIK

Joined Nov 10, 2024
7
There is literally no one here interested in your business(you don’t speak for everyone so you’re wrong here ). It’s not even a credible claim(to make such a negative statement on someone you don’t know shame on you)

Sorry, but I can’t help you(I never wanted your help you brought religion into business and tried to mediate insolence from a clout chaser ) , and you will rapidly discover that no one who would be qualified to work with you would do it for a promise of profit sharing( you’re very wrong here I have 5 people already on board and the agreement isn’t profit sharing something your greedy money chasing personality and others can never fathom) Not even payment up front would be enticement enough to engage with you—for many reasons.

Good luck with whatever you do—but be careful about your posting here, you risk becoming unwelcome(your attitude and other negative presumptuous people who have commented are unwelcoming don’t comment on my post to preach religion .
 
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