Icon MC2100LT-12 Treadmill Controller Not Powering Main Motor

MaxHeadRoom

Joined Jul 18, 2013
30,699
It could be the 78L05 but not common to be low, usually goes to 0v out. You could carefully lift the output pin and measure the current?
Or simply replace it!
Max.
 

Giomonte

Joined Jun 26, 2020
43
I'll try replacing RG3, but I don't have a replacement at the moment. Newbie thinking out loud: if 78L05 not common to be low, could it be fine itself but receiving too weak a signal? If so, where would one look? I'm not very good at tracing, yet. Thanks.
 

MaxHeadRoom

Joined Jul 18, 2013
30,699
It means it is being loaded somehow, about the only thing it supplies is the micro and its port loads, LED etc etc.
Could be a hard problem to pin down.
Max.
 

Giomonte

Joined Jun 26, 2020
43
So, I replaced the 78L05 at RG3. Unfortunately, I got the same reading from the 78L05, the same very dim LED, and of course no voltage at the motor terminals. Perhaps something is wrong upstream from the 78L05. If anyone has any suggestions, please chime in. Thanks.
 

MaxHeadRoom

Joined Jul 18, 2013
30,699
What i would do is first trace and map out the circuit prior to the 78L05, and then power up and do some definitive tests.
It is slightly harder with SMT devices.
Your board version appears different from the reverse engineered version, I have come across at least 6 version of these boards, although basically similar in many respects.
Max.
 

lambalain

Joined Dec 26, 2020
18
OK, I finally got some time to work on that board.(MC2100LT)
In short:
I can run the motor on a car 12V battery. It pulls 10 amps on start and then 7 A on run
So the motor is good.
The console is working.
I have 103 VDC on the DB1 rectifier.
I have a steady LED when power is on.
The LED is rapidly flashing when the console is issuing command ( motor disconnected)
So it seems that the console and logic of the board is OK.

When I start with the console (with motor disconnected) I immediately get 150 V on the pins going to the motor. Changing the setting(slow-Fast) does not change the voltage.
When I stop with the console, the voltage is gradually going down to 0V. (probably because of the big condenser)
When I try the same with the motor connected, the board goes in error mode with the LED flashing slowly.

Question:
Is the Q2 (IRFP250) an ON/Off or is it controlling?
What if the role of Q1 (S4025L) Is it the controlling SCR? How to test if it is working properly
Thank you
 

lambalain

Joined Dec 26, 2020
18
I replaced the Mosfet IRFP250 once more.
Now I can control the voltage going to the motor ( using a light bulb for the testing).
Everything seems to be working fine, except that last time I tried that with the motor the Mosfet burned! I am hesitant to plug the motor again. I ordered 2 replacement and this is the last one!
 
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