How to test mains suppression filter

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pinksoir

Joined Mar 7, 2017
16
Hi,

I'm just wondering how I could test a mains noise/suppression filter. The same as this:

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Something in my synthesizer emitted smoke, but I only recently got around to checking it. There are just two things in the area from which the smoke came that could have emitted smoke: this or the transformer. This smells quite funky which leads me to suspect it, coupled with the fact that the transformer is outputting the correct voltages and thus seems to be operating normally.

So how can I test if the noise filter is busted, besides taking it out and splitting it open to check the components inside?
 

DickCappels

Joined Aug 21, 2008
10,171
This is tongue-in-cheek because it is a lot of work to perform correctly, but it will give you an idea of how it is done formally and you can improvise from there.

Put your filter in place of the filter in a switching power supply, the build or make one of these:

Line Impedance Stabilization Network

Switch on your power supply and look at signals on the output ports of the network with a spectrum analyzer equipped with a quasi-peak detector. You can compare your results with the table below.

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pinksoir

Joined Mar 7, 2017
16
Thanks for the reply.

I don't have a switching power supply (or a spectrum analyser for that matter) to test. I suppose it'd be easier for me to just replace the noise filter if I suspect it's busted?
 

AlbertHall

Joined Jun 4, 2014
12,346
If it is suspected of smoking you can do a quick and dirty test. Assuming the parts inside are laid out according to the diagram on the side:
Check resistance between AC3 and 5 - should be <5Ω
Check resistance between AC4 and 7 - should be <5Ω
Check resistance between 5 and 7 - should be infinite
Check resistance between 6 and 7 - should be infinite
 

Thread Starter

pinksoir

Joined Mar 7, 2017
16
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This is my particular one. In any case, it is the same.

So the readings I get are as follows.

AC3 - 5: .5 ohms
AC4 - 7: O.L (infinite?)
5 - 7: O.L
6 - 7: O.L
5 - 6: 49.4 ohms

So... Not as expected! Which means it's busted as I thought?
 

LesJones

Joined Jan 8, 2017
4,190
Did you disconnect the wires from the filter to prevent you from getting misleading results due to other items it is connected to ? I would have also suggested taking capacitance readings between 5 and 6 (I would expect a little over 0.1 uF ) and also between earth and 5 and earth and 6. (I would expect these two readings to be a little less than 6600 pF.)

Les.
 

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pinksoir

Joined Mar 7, 2017
16
Hi. No, I didn't disconnect it. Of course I should have. Oops. I'll do so when I get some time during the week. Even still, if 5 to 6 should be reading infinite, that I'm getting any resistance at all seems odd, does it not?

I'll remove it and check capacitance too. Thanks.
 
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