Exorcism

maxpower097

Joined Feb 20, 2009
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All made up bs so the church can control its minions. If their is an afterlife with deamons and angels and such, I just don't see them spending the time to possess a nobody. Why don't they possess someone of importance so they could actually do something other thne make some 15 year old girl miss 2nd period.
 

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R!f@@

Joined Apr 2, 2009
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All made up bs so the church can control its minions. If their is an afterlife with deamons and angels and such, I just don't see them spending the time to possess a nobody. Why don't they possess someone of importance so they could actually do something other thne make some 15 year old girl miss 2nd period.
They don't need to, since they don't desire what human does, and as for possession their mission is some how fulfilled, as worlds full of .........( I will leave at that) cause I have respect for the members of AAC no matter what we believe in. So saying somethings even I do not mean them might casue them to react in the wrong way.cause sometimes I tend to say what I want right to the the face ( this is something I developed due to facing peoples in Maldives)
They will posses to ashtray in to make human disbelieve.
I will point out a simple eq: and the when you think of it u know this is the truth.

Take the film that I started this thread.
Emily was possessed by the six demons, the legion as you call it, I donno. What I know is that there is no legion except the jinns and their head master the Lucifer, in Latin words. For the name is "Shaithan". Meaning the disbeliever, this devil was the angel that did not bow down to humans when " he" was commanded by god. After God created Adam and Eve, ( I believe you believe in these two, as it was from them we came from). The Lucifer denied and said that they are made of fire and we are made of clay. This act condemned him to the deepest pits of hell and from that moment. Life here began in Earth from the day Adam and Eve were sent to earth from the day they ate the forbidden apple. As humans were given our greatest gift, "the will power to choose" ( where jinns and angels do not have the will), this act of defiance were where all this started. Jinns and Angels were their. Jinns who started to follow were sent to earth and left to do what they will till the end, they have everything, power and free will and they can toy with us. As Lucifer was an angel he has the power to be every where and anywhere on earth at any time. He can mislead any one or any number of people at one time.

You have a saying, two's a company and 3 is a crowed.
None of you ever realize the true meaning and how this saying came to be. If you do then tell me. I will tell you what it really means. I will leave this topic for later.

Lucifer's mission was to make human disbelieve in god and condemn as many souls as he can to hell. In the end Lucifer will end up at the deepest pit of hell and his followers too. Their will be no end to the torment. None of us realize the tru horror that comes with the fire.

So back to the film. As emily was possessed there was nothing any one can do but to drive the jinn out, and only one who can do this, is a priest, the follower of jesus, the prophet. ( prophet is our belief).
He says and recites phrases from bible and his name and finally the demon is cast away.
The Devil goes but in the end it was the jinn who wins.
Want to know why. Or do you want tell me why?
 

maxpower097

Joined Feb 20, 2009
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Heres the issue. According to Christian law and the amount of people who have lived, loved, and died. Heaven is going to be a very very very lonely place. Heck half the so called christians aren't going to make it. So if you figure in the history of humans christians represent about 0.0000001% of humanity. I just can't believe these are hte only chosen people who will make it. If there is a god, I think he just wants you to be good to your fellow man and thats about it. I just don't see god so arogant he needs his ego stroked on a daily basis to be happy.
 

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R!f@@

Joined Apr 2, 2009
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maxpower097
Heres the issue. According to Christian law and the amount of people who have lived, loved, and died. Heaven is going to be a very very very lonely place.
Your opinion. Not mine. Heaven, beautiful word isn't it :). Everything and anything we ever desired will be given. No human can imagine the feeling.
no words can describe heaven or hell for that matter.
See the universe, well it's nothing to what god has in store for us. we are indeed not alone.

Heck half the so called christians aren't going to make it.
Sorry to disappointe you and don't even mean to offend you, in fact I feel sorry for you that you are wrong here my dear friend.

So if you figure in the history of humans christians represent about 0.0000001% of humanity. I just can't believe these are hte only chosen people who will make it.
Again.. this is what you believe.

If there is a god, I think he just wants you to be good to your fellow man
coming this even from you, this so very true

and thats about it.
far from it.........

I just don't see god so arogant he needs his ego stroked on a daily basis to be happy
No human, animal, or anything on earth can withstand his might.
You cannot see him but if he wills, you can hear him, not with ur ears...
want to know how?

You should be thanking him for what he has given you, ur family and loved ones, and to ur knowledge. Disasters and sorrow means more happier things to come. A loss is a actually a gain, this is what I believe.
for god wills no human loss or pain instead he forgives and provides, and yet we show a cold shoulder to him.
 

maxpower097

Joined Feb 20, 2009
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And thats your opinion. One fact is more people have been slaughtered in the name of Christianity then in all the modern wars combined. Whats that tell you. Religion is big big business! I've lived in the bible belt and it's plain rediculous.
 

loosewire

Joined Apr 25, 2008
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Riaff asked your personal experience aout this subject,
we have gone off In different directions.

Riaff should start a new thread.

Lock this one.
 

Wendy

Joined Mar 24, 2008
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Why spread it around? Let this one be.

There is a reason I don't talk religion, and usually not politics. It's like a train wreck in slow motion.

When true believers with differing points of view it is hard to stay civil. So far this one has. When its not, then lock it. Hopefully no one gets banned.

About not talking politics, like all ideals it can be hard to maintain.
 

retched

Joined Dec 5, 2009
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No. No need, as this does follow the theme. I dont think we need to have a virtual jihad here.

It is not NICE to FORCE your oppinion down anyones throat.

What happend to the people thousands of years before christ?

Whats your opinion?

Do you believe they had free will to choose in their hearts if there was an unnamed GOD? And If they did, they were granted membership?

I had a civil disscussion, with a man of the cloth, about aborted babies, and babies who died BEFORE learning of religon.

What if you died in a car wreck on the way to baptism? (or any other comparable religious service for children)

If you were born blind, deaf and dumb, How would your soul be treated?
You lack the ability to read the books of religion, hear the words from them, and ask any questions. You would know nothing about religion. Are they destined to hell?
 

loosewire

Joined Apr 25, 2008
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That where touch,feal emotions would take over,the stongest emotions.
They are the ones that we wished we could have used on us.This Is a lonely
world for a lot of people. Also though.Have you been touched to day.
Do you feal love loved. Even by your dog,cat, or bird.
 
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R!f@@

Joined Apr 2, 2009
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I don't want to talk about religion my topic was demons and ur experience.
And I don't see a reason not to discuss this among members and chit chat. I do not want guests and new comers.

maxpower
And thats your opinion. One fact is more people have been slaughtered in the name of Christianity then in all the modern wars combined. Whats that tell you. Religion is big big business! I've lived in the bible belt and it's plain rediculous.
Why do you say ridiculous to bible. I hope no one here takes these things personally. I want to open my eyes to the world.

Loose wire
Riaff asked your personal experience aout this subject,
we have gone off In different directions.

Riaff should start a new thread.

Lock this one.
No ..no need to lock it...i don't mind...it's good to know about things, and why clutter the board. Still I hope everyone stick to the topic. No need to go off topic in off topic:D

And Bill, I too hate politics. But politics is the main reason behind every thing.

retched
No. No need, as this does follow the theme. I dont think we need to have a virtual jihad here.
Killing innocents is not jihad, it's murder.
Jihad can only be in ones and loved ones protection.
or protection for the nation when another invades without a reason.
or from protection from those who comes to hurt you in the name of belief it is the personal grudge the a maniac holds because he cannot apprehend the fact that the other is better than him. Personal hate, this is the main cause. no other. period.

It is not NICE to FORCE your oppinion down anyones throat.
Agreed

What happend to the people thousands of years before christ?
I can tell you, but not in an open forum. Every detail. I know what All of you donno.

Whats your opinion?
about what?

Do you believe they had free will to choose in their hearts if there was an unnamed GOD?
Yes ......like I said .. not in an open forum
And If they did, they were granted membership?
they were...they were...

I had a civil disscussion, with a man of the cloth, about aborted babies, and babies who died BEFORE learning of religon.
abortion is killing and same as murder
retched, there were religion before too, and beliefs, it's how life began and it's how it will end.
What if you died in a car wreck on the way to baptism? (or any other comparable religious service for children)
What is baptism, tell me this and I will enlighten you. :)

If you were born blind, deaf and dumb, How would your soul be treated?
blind...will be treated as you and me. cause he too has to choose. he alone should decide why he was blind and how he should act to it. should he thanked god for giving him another ability without sight that no one else has and learn to use to his potential if he tried, or show ur back to him for making you blind and get angry and shouts, ever wonder why you went blind in the first place, ( if not a new born) . A blind believer will have a story, we have to find one to know it.
Deaf .....same as above
dumb and mad....has no consciouse and are exception. there acts here are already forgiven and they will be rewarded.
No scientist can understand the human mind, no matter what, they will all fail.
You do have saying like this don't you..

No good deed goes unrewarded..or
do it and it will come back 10 fold.


Do something bad and you will be punished the same later in life.

Tell me how these came to be and why do you believe it.
All this are true.
What we get in return for our deeds are things for us to find out and be thankful.
For every act you will be rewarded. good or bad. In ur life time.
bad ones will be punished accordingly in afterlife and good ones comes in multiplications. It is why we say he is the forgiver and the merciful. No one can forgive as much as he does. tell me can you forgive for ever. no need to answer, cause I already know.

You lack the ability to read the books of religion, hear the words from them, and ask any questions. You would know nothing about religion. Are they destined to hell?
No. Answer ....not here retched..truly am sorry.
 
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loosewire

Joined Apr 25, 2008
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We know we have dna now,so you an onion laying In your kitchen
to long,In some cases the onion start to show growth with a
new green spout.So take your dna who knows If It has a code to renew you
In the here after. May be there other things out there other than dna.
From science point of view,nothing to do with God,don't go there.
 
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loosewire

Joined Apr 25, 2008
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WE are not the type of people to be alarmed,why so much
attention to that subject. We understand any thing you say.
So you can express your self,maybe we have questions that
would be tough for you to answer.I am sure alot guys are afraid
to ask you questions. I understand a lot.
 

t06afre

Joined May 11, 2009
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How about your demons Loosewire, from your activity in this forum. It is quite obvious that you have some demons. Then I say demons it does not have to be a spiritual demon. But something is bugging you. Feel free to share
 

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R!f@@

Joined Apr 2, 2009
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Yeah... something is bugging loosewire.
Go ahead just ask, I'll be happy to answer, and if I donno I'll just say so.
No problem....I am not on a mission or anything, I just sometimes wants to know what people thinks and knows, especially the one that like to share knowledge.
 
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