Dual micro switched winch contol

MisterBill2

Joined Jan 23, 2018
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Are you referencing that drawing showing in post #17?That one gets a bit confusing because of the numbering on the terminals.
Certainly the switch on the pendant could be suitable for direction control,, and a foot switch with adequate guarding to avoid accidental operation would be good.
I would use the numbers showing on that drawing but I do not see the capacitor connections. Is the capacitor attached to the motor housing??
 

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MacGyver01

Joined Jul 17, 2024
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Are you referencing that drawing showing in post #17?That one gets a bit confusing because of the numbering on the terminals.
Certainly the switch on the pendant could be suitable for direction control,, and a foot switch with adequate guarding to avoid accidental operation would be good.
I would use the numbers showing on that drawing but I do not see the capacitor connections. Is the capacitor attached to the motor housing??
The capacitor is leading to terminal 5 through 11 to the controller left center pole. The other side of the capacitor goes into leg 7 through to one side of the motor. The other power top right also goes to this leg.
 

MisterBill2

Joined Jan 23, 2018
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I suggest that the foot switch be a normally open momentary switch rated for at least the nameplate motor current, about ten amps. put the foot switch in series with the LINE input. Bypass the external "microswitch connection, (between terminals #8 and #7), and use the control pendant connections as wired. The drawing is a bit confusing. To operate the machine step and hold the foot switch, and then use the buttons on the pendant to run in the desired direction.
 
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MacGyver01

Joined Jul 17, 2024
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I was wanting to add a switch rather than delete.
the intent is that it rotates to a loading point on one side, then reverse direction to an unload position 180 degrees. I think circuitry would be similar to a garage door, hits a limit at point a, reverses direction to point B, repeat.
reasoning is there is an air actuated piston to secure the load when turning.
If the unit keeps spinning the air lines are at risk, I want to eliminate the possibility of a user going same direction rather than back and forth.
the existing switch protects it in one direction, I would like another switch for the return direction.
 

MisterBill2

Joined Jan 23, 2018
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I was wanting to add a switch rather than delete.
the intent is that it rotates to a loading point on one side, then reverse direction to an unload position 180 degrees. I think circuitry would be similar to a garage door, hits a limit at point a, reverses direction to point B, repeat.
reasoning is there is an air actuated piston to secure the load when turning.
If the unit keeps spinning the air lines are at risk, I want to eliminate the possibility of a user going same direction rather than back and forth.
the existing switch protects it in one direction, I would like another switch for the return direction.
I was not by any means suggesting removing the two directions controls, but rather leave it to the operator. I was assuming a hard stop built in to the frame, so that the rotation was only half a turn. An actual limit switch will need to stop rotation in both directions. that makes it a bit more complex. possibly two limit switches. So now the design gets a bit more complicated. I had not considered the possibility of continued rotation. Now I will need to THINK!!
 

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MacGyver01

Joined Jul 17, 2024
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I was not by any means suggesting removing the two directions controls, but rather leave it to the operator. I was assuming a hard stop built in to the frame, so that the rotation was only half a turn. An actual limit switch will need to stop rotation in both directions. that makes it a bit more complex. possibly two limit switches. So now the design gets a bit more complicated. I had not considered the possibility of continued rotation. Now I will need to THINK!!
Sorry, thinking on a weekend…no problem it’s like a puzzle for me.
I get so far though and see more complexity. Maybe creating two seperate circuits would be easier .
 

MisterBill2

Joined Jan 23, 2018
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Certainly it will be at least two different parts of the circuit, because each switch must allow motion in the opposite direction. And each switch must only stop motion in one direction. So there will need to be mounts for two micro-switches as well as a hard stop. You will probably want to use actual limit switches so that they are durable enough to last. That is needed because often time broken switches get bypassed, which is often unsafe.
 

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MacGyver01

Joined Jul 17, 2024
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I added the second switch between the reverse power/capacitor line in the controller to the switch itself.
works well. Thanks for all the help!
 

MisterBill2

Joined Jan 23, 2018
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I added the second switch between the reverse power/capacitor line in the controller to the switch itself.
works well. Thanks for all the help!
I am always happy to share knowledge with those who want to know. And it is rewarding to know that the advice taken worked well.
 
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