Crowbar Circuit To protect Sensor for overvoltage

LowQCab

Joined Nov 6, 2012
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nd the resistance remains the same?
The Resistor is just to pull the Gate-Voltage to ~zero when the Zener is not conducting.
It has only a very slight effect on the operation of the Circuit.

A FET with a "Logic-Level" Threshold-Voltage-rating will have
more Gain, and therefore a sharper-response, instead of a smoother/softer response,
but in your case a sharp-response is not really required.

If you use the FET Circuit, you must verify the Clamping-Voltage by actual measurement.
Don't just guess at it.
Look at the "Gate-Charge vs Gate-to-Source Voltage" Graph in the Data-Sheet of
which ever FET you choose, the Gate-Voltage where the line goes "flat" is
the exact "Gate-Threshold" number that you should use for your calculations.

The IRLI3705N is a 55-Volt, 52-Amp, Full-Pack-Package, Logic-Level-FET,
which has a Threshold-Voltage of only ~3.5-Volts,
and does not require an Insulator-Kit for mounting, just thermal grease.

40-Volts minus 3.5-Volts = 36.5-Volts Zener-Diode required.
39.5-Volts minus 3.5-Volts = 36-Volts Zener-Diode required.
 

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IgnacioMorac

Joined May 30, 2021
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The Resistor is just to pull the Gate-Voltage to ~zero when the Zener is not conducting.
It has only a very slight effect on the operation of the Circuit.

A FET with a "Logic-Level" Threshold-Voltage-rating will have
more Gain, and therefore a sharper-response, instead of a smoother/softer response,
but in your case a sharp-response is not really required.

If you use the FET Circuit, you must verify the Clamping-Voltage by actual measurement.
Don't just guess at it.
Look at the "Gate-Charge vs Gate-to-Source Voltage" Graph in the Data-Sheet of
which ever FET you choose, the Gate-Voltage where the line goes "flat" is
the exact "Gate-Threshold" number that you should use for your calculations.

The IRLI3705N is a 55-Volt, 52-Amp, Full-Pack-Package, Logic-Level-FET,
which has a Threshold-Voltage of only ~3.5-Volts,
and does not require an Insulator-Kit for mounting, just thermal grease.

40-Volts minus 3.5-Volts = 36.5-Volts Zener-Diode required.
39.5-Volts minus 3.5-Volts = 36-Volts Zener-Diode required.
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Here in Costa Rica I found an interesting transistor.
So
36-Volts Zener-Diode + 3.8 Volts = 39.8-Volts
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IgnacioMorac

Joined May 30, 2021
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Today I did the first test of the PCB with the circuit and it did not work. It was quite frustrating.

I have an impedance matching problem.
When I measure the voltage that comes out of the zener regulator, it is very low compared to the value presented in simulation.

I don't know whether to use an impedance decoupling stage between the voltage regulator and the U3A amplifier.

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Here is the PCB
When I measured the voltages with the voltmeter, I got 1 volt at the output of the resistor array that generates 5 volts.
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Maybe you are going to tell me, that the Ian Solution its is better, but the project its advanced.
 

click_here

Joined Sep 22, 2020
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(25V-1V)/1k = 24mA

Looking at the graph in the LT1490 datasheet, the device needs around 35mA, and the zenar would not be getting enough current to regulate (Izt=14mA).

It's basically a case of not enough current - Try lower values for R6
 

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IgnacioMorac

Joined May 30, 2021
39
(25V-1V)/1k = 24mA

Looking at the graph in the LT1490 datasheet, the device needs around 35mA, and the zenar would not be getting enough current to regulate (Izt=14mA).

It's basically a case of not enough current - Try lower values for R6
I am seeing that I am not reaching the minimum for a little but it is valid
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Ian0

Joined Aug 7, 2020
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(25V-1V)/1k = 24mA

Looking at the graph in the LT1490 datasheet, the device needs around 35mA, and the zenar would not be getting enough current to regulate (Izt=14mA).

It's basically a case of not enough current - Try lower values for R6
Nonsense - it needs 100uA - "SUpply current per amplifier" = 50uA towards the bottom of page 3.
Is the zener in back-to-front? That would give about 1V.
 

Ian0

Joined Aug 7, 2020
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1623294432273.png

Here is the PCB
When I measured the voltages with the voltmeter, I got 1 volt at the output of the resistor array that generates 5 volts.
Could you put your measured voltages on the diagram above, please.
And include the MOSFET gate and drain voltages.
 
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