Could use some help reversing an NMOS chip form the 1980's.

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Tailgunner

Joined May 25, 2014
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I have the MAB 8440 NMOS from the 1980's. This microcontroller is used in the early 'highly regarded' Cd-players of that era. Now I know there are replacements out there but as far as I know there not based on the ROM inside the chip. The chips doesn't allow to access the ROM directly from the outside. What i have done so far is milled a pocket, dissolved the remaining epoxy, took die shots and stitched the image. My question is how to proceed with delayering. It seems i run in to difficulty to etch just enough of the SiO2 layer to expose the metal layer. I believe it is aluminium. I have microprobes when the need should arrive but there is a long way to go yet. Maybe someone has experience in this field of reversing NMOS chips and your help would be greatly appreciated.
Datasheet and die-shot can be found here:
MAB8440 datasheet and photo
 

atferrari

Joined Jan 6, 2004
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You could go for starters to EEV forum. There is a small group with experience on reverse engineering. Be ready to read long threads.

Otherwise, there was a member in the Microchip forum, Mario something IIRC, who evidently participated in that kind of activity. Not even sure if he is active today.
 

ronsimpson

Joined Oct 7, 2019
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It is an 8048 computer. I probably have some of those.
Members of the 8048 family include the 8021, 8035, 8038, 8039, 8040, 8048, 8049, 8050, 8748, and 8749.
I see there are cross compilers. There probably an emulator.
I think years ago we ported 8048 code to 8051 and Z80.
 

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Tailgunner

Joined May 25, 2014
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On the MAB 8440 there is no direct access to the ROM from the outside. So don't know how one could read out the code. There is an emulation out there on a Atmega 328 but that is not what I'm after.
 

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Tailgunner

Joined May 25, 2014
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Thanks for your guys input. I'll give this another go, got another microscope objective coming my way so i hopefully can see things more clearly.
 
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