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nsaspook

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This talks about twitter bots.

As I was referring to vaccine scepticism in Russia, not sure how this is relevant?

Russia's latest wave may have peaked.
The wave is following the usual 2 month cycle.
https://www.wdio.com/coronavirus/wh...-cases-rise-as-national-numbers-drop/6260272/

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45294192

The troll farms are just part of the traditional Russia intelligence disinformation infrastructure we've seen for decades attacking the west. The spillover back into Russia is a known side-effect of propaganda but the people in charge of Russia don't care what happens to the ordinary Joe Cossack on the street IMO.
 

justtrying

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The wave is following the usual 2 month cycle.
https://www.wdio.com/coronavirus/wh...-cases-rise-as-national-numbers-drop/6260272/

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45294192

The troll farms are just part of the traditional Russia intelligence disinformation infrastructure we've seen for decades attacking the west. The spillover back into Russia is a known side-effect of propaganda but the people in charge of Russia don't care what happens to the ordinary Joe Cossack on the street IMO.
No government cares beyond an election cycle. BC is drowning right now and it took our provincial government in charge several days to declare a state of emergency.

Vaccination hesitancy in Russia has nothing to do with troll farms. You can view vaccination rate as true government approval rating in a way...
 

nsaspook

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No government cares beyond an election cycle. BC is drowning right now and it took our provincial government in charge several days to declare a state of emergency.

Vaccination hesitancy in Russia has nothing to do with troll farms. You can view vaccination rate as true government approval rating in a way...
I'm not blaming just them for Vaccination hesitancy in Russia but troll farms are just one aspect of a coordinated Russian disinformation campaign in general that's part of a much larger problem with government mistrust in Russia. The lies that are spread don't just stay outside, they influence the level of trust in the government that is known for spreading lies (transparently stupid lies) specifically about vaccination in the past and present.
 

nsaspook

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https://www.yahoo.com/news/fools-thought-covid-party-sounded-124814714.html
ROME—A prosecutor in the northern Italian province of Bolzano has opened an investigation after one man died and several others landed in intensive care after they reportedly attended a COVID party to try to get sick.
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At the parties, the infected mingle, kiss, and hug the unvaccinated in order to spread the virus, Franzoni said, adding the infected person could face criminal charges for knowingly spreading the virus during a state of emergency, which Italy is under because of the pandemic. According to the initial investigation, some of the parties are being held in outdoor areas of bars, which are accessible without a Green Pass. There, an infected person will drink out of a glass or bottle of beer and pass it around to try to spread the virus. Other events are held in private homes. In one case, the infected person was bedridden and the guests are said to have gathered around the sickbed to try to breathe in the virus.
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The US map shows many areas that still have antivaxers. How can they afford to pay for their hospitalization?
Even insurance companies do not pay for hospital Covid treatment for unvaccinated people.
But many of these cases are little kids who are not vaccinated yet and they do not get as sick as older people.
 

nsaspook

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http://www.healthdata.org/covid/video/insights-ihmes-latest-covid-19-model-run

So what’s happening to Europe right now? In the Northern Hemisphere, where the increases are unfolding, we believe that this is the expected increase due to winter but it’s more intense in places where, paradoxically, they have done a better job during the pandemic with vaccination campaigns and have lower levels of natural immunity (due to previous infection). It’s hard to explain the North-South gradient otherwise. And then in Europe, there’s a very sharp East-West gradient where countries like Bulgaria, Romania, Belarus, the Baltic states, the Russian Federation – here, transmission is decreasing, and yet these are the places with the lowest vaccination rates that have dramatically high levels of past infection. So trying to put all the pieces together, what we think we’re observing is the combination of winter seasonality, the levels of past infection, and waning immunity from vaccine-derived immunity. This may suggest that when you take all the studies on waning vaccine-derived immunity into account, the winter surges in the rest of the Northern Hemisphere may be larger than we currently predict and then what most people expect because there is this cohort of people that were vaccinated more than six months ago, particularly the most vulnerable. This is something we’ve been watching quite closely, and there’s a real potential risk of a worse winter than perhaps we have been expecting.
We see the same effects in the USA.
Winter, past infection and waning vaccine immunity.
Get your booster.
 

nsaspook

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https://www.medicaldaily.com/covid-...-point-self-extinction-long-run-report-463554
COVID-19 Delta Variant Could Reach A Point Of ‘Self-Extinction’ In The Long Run: Report
While the U.S. is still struggling with the effects of the pandemic, Japan has surprisingly observed a significant drop in its number of daily cases, causing experts to believe that the delta strain is close to extinction in the Asian country. And based on what they have witnessed so far, the reason for the sudden nosedive in cases could be rooted to one of the virus’s innate abilities — mutation.
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A group of researchers led by the National Institute of Genetics, Mishima, Japan conducted a study on the delta virus. While focusing on the strain’s error-correcting enzyme called nsp14, they found that certain genetic changes in the virus led to an abrupt stop in its evolution process.

According to the researchers, they noticed that at a certain point, the delta variant struggled to repair the errors but continued to replicate itself. This ultimately caused the virus to take care of its own demise. Ituro Inoue, a genetics professor at the institute, referred to the process as “self-destruction,” and he said that they were all shocked by this discovery.
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2021/11/22/national/japan-coronavirus-november22/

The number of new COVID-19 infections confirmed in Japan on Monday totaled 50, the lowest daily figure for 2021 and the first time the number hit 50 or lower since June 22, 2020.

Across the country, two new deaths linked to COVID-19 were reported, while the number of severely ill coronavirus patients increased by one from the previous day to 63.

Tokyo reported just six new COVID-19 cases the same day, the fewest since May 31 last year, when five cases were confirmed, the metropolitan government said.

The figure fell below this year’s record low of seven on Nov. 15. More than 76% of Japan’s population is now fully vaccinated.

Japan’s low daily infection figures contrast with other countries such as South Korea, which have similarly high vaccination rates but have still seen an uptick in infections.
 

shortbus

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Remember the Bird Flu? How on earth did we all survive without a vaccine
Don't know about your part of the world, but here in the US many(enough?) people get a yearly flu vaccine. And each year it is made up with the most likely flu viruses to be active for that season. It's never just for a single variant it's for several ones that "may" be active for that time. And usually changes from year to year. Bird and swine flu may be in the mix.

Flu vaccines up until now(and I look for that to change) haven't been that controversial, since they've been around for ~90 years. " Vaccination against influenza began in the 1930s, with large-scale availability in the United States beginning in 1945.[10][11] It is on the World Health Organization's List of Essential Medicines "
from - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Influenza_vaccine
 
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The influenza virus is completely different to the Covid-19 virus so the vaccines are also completely different and the flu vaccine must match the virus which rarely happens.
The article and many others say "The most common influenza vaccine contains an "inactivated" virus, which manufacturers grow in chicken eggs." Pfizer MRNA vaccines do not contain inactivated virus but the Sputnik vaccine might!

I always get the flu vaccine and now I have had the Covid booster shot. Therefore I have never had the Flu or Covid virus because the vaccines are safe and effective.
 

nsaspook

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Seems a bit overblown for now.
Greg Dore, an infectious disease physician at St Vincent's Hospital in Sydney, Australia, tweeted on Wednesday night that B.1.1.529 "has mutations associated [with] reduced vaccine effectiveness" but added it may also be that case that the variant is not particularly transmissible.

He added: "Time to monitor, not time to panic."
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shortbus

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They keep piling on the pressure for Vaxx v Anti-Vaxx fear mongering.
If the antis are inteligent they would see that the variant is coming from a place that has very few vaccinated people. That, low vaccination rates, is usually what allows variants to happen. But then I haven't heard even one person claim those that don't vaccinate as being inteligent.
 
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