Guess I should have included a smiley

 

All those people crowded together at an outdoor concert and without being checked for vaccinations is not allowed in a civilized country because it is a virus super spreader.

Looks like we join the ranks of the 'civilized' at the end of the month.

https://edgefieldconcerts.com/health-safety/

Attendees age 12 and older at Edgefield Concerts on the Lawn must meet one of these conditions for entry to concerts:

Show proof of full COVID vaccination (vaccination card or photo of vaccination card). Full vaccination is two weeks past a single dose of Johnson & Johnson or two weeks past a second dose of Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna vaccine. Photo ID required.
or
Show proof of a negative COVID test (PCR or “rapid test” acceptable) within 72 hours preceding the event. Photo ID required.

As of Friday, August 27, masks are required indoors and outdoors by state mandate for everyone age 5 and older and must be in place at all times, except while actively eating or drinking.

Fans under 12 are not required to show proof of vaccination or a COVID test, but must be fully masked at all times, except when actively eating or drinking.

While I don't have a problem with the requirement of outdoors masking for popular events as one method to reduce the possibility of infection, the actual science of transmission from previous variants says the reduction in transmission from wearing masks outdoors during these types of events is likely to be small even with delta.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/11/briefing/outdoor-covid-transmission-cdc-number.html

They continue to treat outdoor transmission as a major risk. The C.D.C. says that unvaccinated people should wear masks in most outdoor settings and vaccinated people should wear them at “large public venues”; summer camps should require children to wear masks virtually “at all times.”

These recommendations would be more grounded in science if anywhere close to 10 percent of Covid transmission were occurring outdoors. But it is not. There is not a single documented Covid infection anywhere in the world from casual outdoor interactions, such as walking past someone on a street or eating at a nearby table.

Today’s newsletter will be a bit longer than usual, so I can explain how the C.D.C. ended up promoting a misleading number.

Good ventilation is much better than the common cloth or surgical masks in the prevention of infection indoors.

 

Agreed. However you can't call the state of Oregon an uncivilized country. C'mon, look at an image of a music festival in Oregon and call it an uncivilized country? Got my vaccination and when available I'll get a booster. Each state gets to handle things as they choose and Oregon come election time can choose to replace their governor. Regardless Oregon is not an uncivilized country, not in how I learned it anyway.

Also. per capita globally where do you see the US as #1? This is what I see and it does not have the US as #1. Then too with so many skewed numbers I am not quick to believe most of what I read.

Ron

Civilized North Korea, they still have zero cases.

https://www.nknews.org/2021/08/nort...vid-cases-amid-rumblings-of-humanitarian-aid/

North Korea claims it still has had no cases of COVID-19 after testing an additional 693 people, according to the World Health Organization (WHO), amid reports that humanitarian aid flows into the country may soon resume.

 

Audioguru should move to BC. Vaccine passports mandatory for all nonessential events as of mid september. Best part - no exemptions. Meaning that if you could not get a vaccine because you are on cancer treatment, you cannot get an exemption.

And trust them, this is a temporary measure.

Because you trusted a month ago that passports would never be implemented (statement given a month ago) as the province already has great inequity in ita population.

Oh and the passport is an app you MUST download. No other options. There is a website, but it is verified through the app.

This is a bad joke. But perhaps they will collect some good data on transmission between vaccinated? (Wishful thinking).

 

Yes, the charts show that USA has the most confirmed Covid-19 cases and deaths than any other country.

 

All those people crowded together at an outdoor concert and without being checked for vaccinations is not allowed in a civilized country because it is a virus super spreader.

In places like Texas especially people just don't really appreciate that kind of mindset. Why? Because most people here simply see such policies as totalitarian (even Orwellian) measures. And nobody is going to stand behind that.

That said, a good number of Texans are still pro-vaccine. So it isn't like people aren't listening to reason. Covid is mostly under control anyway. There will naturally be a spike in infections over the winter most likely but that's certainly nothing to panic about either. The pandemic is basically over. It's time to move on now...

 

Yes, the charts show that USA has the most confirmed Covid-19 cases and deaths than any other country.

Some detail on that data. The vast majority of deaths were not in otherwise healthy people at concerts, outdoor events or any active activity. They sadly were the aged and sick with existing conditions.
https://www.aarp.org/health/conditions-treatments/info-2020/coronavirus-deaths-older-adults.html

In a pandemic filled with grim statistics, one of the grimmest has gone largely unnoticed: 95 percent of COVID-19 deaths in the U.S. have occurred among people who were 50 or older. This even though the majority of coronavirus cases have been reported in people under age 50.

High levels of vaccination in this group has reduced the case death rate to much lower levels during this delta wave. Get the shot, save lives.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/covid19/mortality-overview.htm

 

The chart from 4 months ago showed few deaths In USA of young people when the Delta variant was not killing them like now.
The chart said that 46.4% of comorbidity was with unvaccinated Covid people who also did not get a flu shot?
Vaccines save many lives.

My neighbor is a nurse at the local hospital who treated a guy who was 38 years young. He was sorry that he did not get vaccinated. His family was not allowed in to see him die. He probably got the virus from his father and grandmother who also were not vaccinated and also died of Covid-19. I hope the guy's kids, wife and friends survive.

I am 76 and got two doses of the Covid-19 vaccine months ago. I feel fine but if tested I might show that I have the virus but it is not producing any symptoms because I am fully vaccinated. If I wasn't vaccinated then I would probably be dead or in a hospital with a machine doing my breathing before I die.

Soon I will have a vaccine passport then I can do all the activities that unvaccinated people will be banned from doing.
They say that they have "rights"? The majority of people are vaccinated and say that the unvaccinated people have "wrongs".

 

The chart from 4 months ago showed few deaths In USA of young people when the Delta variant was not killing them like now.
The chart said that 46.4% of comorbidity was with unvaccinated Covid people who also did not get a flu shot?
Vaccines save many lives.

My neighbor is a nurse at the local hospital who treated a guy who was 38 years young. He was sorry that he did not get vaccinated. His family was not allowed in to see him die. He probably got the virus from his father and grandmother who also were not vaccinated and also died of Covid-19. I hope the guy's kids, wife and friends survive.

I am 76 and got two doses of the Covid-19 vaccine months ago. I feel fine but if tested I might show that I have the virus but it is not producing any symptoms because I am fully vaccinated. If I wasn't vaccinated then I would probably be dead or in a hospital with a machine doing my breathing before I die.

Soon I will have a vaccine passport then I can do all the activities that unvaccinated people will be banned from doing.
They say that they have "rights"? The majority of people are vaccinated and say that the unvaccinated people have "wrongs".

Yes, Vaccines save many lives and would have saved the lives of many of the young death cases.

The actual numbers of US unvaccinated 50's and under dead are in the minority even while their numbers are increasing in the hospitalized totals simply because younger people have stronger immune systems (and bodies in general) even if they do act like idiots.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm

 

What percentage of unvaccinated and un-masked people are Smokers? Druggies? Alkies?

 

We also have the highest death rate due to covid in the world. YES! We're #1

Is it just because we have more people than Canada? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Canadian_and_American_economies

The population of Canada in July 2018 was 37,058,856 while the population of the United States was 328,928,146 in November 2018.

Don’t read the Graphs if based on population, you guys can do it, I don’t have time for that lol

kv

 

I would assume any comparisons from country to country would be "per-capita".

But, I'm also going to go out on a limb and say you probably can't trust the reported stats from some countries...if not all.

 

What percentage of unvaccinated and un-masked people are Smokers? Druggies? Alkies?

I've no idea what the number are in Canada.

 

This is what I see and it does not have the US as #1. Then too with so many skewed numbers I am not quick to believe most of what I read.

You must have seen a different one than that link. It shows us, USA, with 627,840 deaths and Brazil coming the closest to us, with 575,742. So to me that means we're still #1! Take that the rest of the world!

 

USA has 8 to 10 times the number of people than Canada but USA has 23 times more total deaths caused by Covid-19.

 

North Korea laughs at those numbers.

 

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North Korea laughs at those numbers.

Ok, Ok horsy easy easy, if you throw me I will have you neutered.

kv

 

While I don't have a problem with the requirement of outdoors masking for popular events as one method to reduce the possibility of infection, the actual science of transmission from previous variants says the reduction in transmission from wearing masks outdoors during these types of events is likely to be small even with delta.

Sort of like putting up a cyclone fence to stop mosquitoes? Let me also be among the first to welcome Oregon as a civilized country.

Ron

 

Guess I should have included a smiley

Sorry.

Ron

 

USA has 8 to 10 times the number of people than Canada but USA has 23 times more total deaths caused by Covid-19.

Got a credible link from your center of the universe? You just seem to toss out bogus numbers so thought I would ask. Also, the US is not Canada so get over yourself.

Ron