Fake Covid Vaccination Cards Are on the Rise (msn.com)

Shocked that this is happening.

I just laugh where I hear of Vaccination Passports as a solution to lockout the unvaxxed in the US. The critical flaw is the base document is an unauthenticated piece of cardboard that doesn't require a valid ID from those that actually got a shot.

Do I need to bring ID with me to prove my eligibility for the COVID-19 vaccine?

You do not need documentation or specific identification to prove eligibility. Vaccine providers themselves may require you to declare, through a verbal declaration or in some other way, that you are in an eligible group before you receive a vaccine. You may be asked for insurance information, though the vaccination is free, and you cannot be asked to pay out of pocket for the vaccine administration fee.
You will receive proof you have been vaccinated, do not lose the card you are given.

https://govstatus.egov.com/or-oha-vaccine-faqs#:~:text=You do not need documentation,card you are given.

To the clowns using these fakes, just remember that a fake card can result in real sickness and death.

 

Shocked that this is happening.

I just laugh where I hear of Vaccination Passports as a solution to lockout the unvaxxed in the US. The critical flaw is the base document is an unauthenticated piece of cardboard that doesn't require a valid ID from those that actually got a shot.

https://govstatus.egov.com/or-oha-vaccine-faqs#:~:text=You do not need documentation,card you are given.

To the clowns using these fakes, just remember that a fake card can result in real sickness and death.

Measures are being taken to prevent, or at least minimize it:

Vaccination form for federal workers adds penalties for lies​

Federal employees who need to certify their vaccination status under a new policy instituted by President Joe Biden intended to encourage COVID-19 shots will false disciplinary action and potentially criminal prosecution if they lie on the form

 

It is happening next week. In Canada, most people are fully vaccinated people and will be allowed to do almost anything but non-vaccinated people will be banned from almost everything.
In some countries there are so many non-vaccinated people that their hospitals are full and are not taking in any more Covid patients.

(Emphasis added by Dick Cappels for clarity.

Keep in mind that there are many people who live in places where there is little or nothing in the way of vaccinations available. Much of S.E. Asia, Australia, and much of Africa come to mind.

 

Measures are being taken to prevent, or at least minimize it:

Vaccination form for federal workers adds penalties for lies​

LOL that will fix the problem. It's like the 'have you done drugs' on the security clearance form. There still is no way to legally authenticate the actual VAXX document to a person in the US to provide proof for penalties. I could walk into a drug-store today with zero ID and get a shot using any name I dream of. The flip side is I could said I did get a shot but there is no way to match my ID to any VAXX card.

There's no federal system to authenticate COVID vaccine cards.

 

I just laugh where I hear of Vaccination Passports as a solution to lockout the unvaxxed in the US. The critical flaw is the base document is an unauthenticated piece of cardboard that doesn't require a valid ID from those that actually got a shot.

You laugh at Vaccination Passport, which don’t exist yet so what the heck are you laughing at ???

You are blaming flaws in the plan because of flaws in another piece of paperwork. Don’t compare a paper record to
(as yet to be defined) piece of documentation.

People who do so become part of the problem (IMHO) by spreading and creating misinformation. Don’t create a problem when it doesn’t exist yet.

I can conceive an software system solution that runs a custom Linux core on any machine that has fingerprint authentication that sandboxes an authentication process.

Communication over the Internet would be over a two-layer VPN, where the second-level cert is created using a proprietary algorithm. Similar to theDark Web.

This is used to create an authentication recordfor verification purposes.

 

Don't you guys have a government health card with your photo on it and a file about your vaxx status like I have?
I needed to prove who I am in order to get two jabs. The same as voting.
Soon my government health service will give me a vaxx passport card with my photo on it.

 

Sounds just like the Dominion system.

 

You laugh at Vaccination Passport, which don’t exist yet so what the heck are you laughing at ???

You are blaming flaws in the plan because of flaws in another piece of paperwork. Don’t compare a paper record to
(as yet to be defined) piece of documentation.

People who do so become part of the problem (IMHO) by spreading and creating misinformation. Don’t create a problem when it doesn’t exist yet.

I can conceive an software system solution that runs a custom Linux core on any machine that has fingerprint authentication that sandboxes an authentication process.

Communication over the Internet would be over a two-layer VPN, where the second-level cert is created using a proprietary algorithm. Similar to theDark Web.

This is used to create an authentication recordfor verification purposes.

This is not disinformation. I'm laughing about it being vaccination proof theater that will waste valuable time and money for little gained in actual reduction of cases, sickness and death. The source document is not authenticated, so any system, no matter how secure, when built on that as the root database will not be authenticated (GIGO) as to any individual being vaccinated unless you force people one by one to give a finger-print after the fact while being vaccinated 'again' to generate another authenticated database. I'm all for a properly implemented secure Vaccination Passport (as breakthrough infections that pass the virus in the fully vaccinated are still rare) but using the CDC credential paper as the source of proof is a fools game.

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2021/05/america-covid-vaccine-honor-system/618891/

If you have been fortunate enough to receive a COVID-19 vaccine, you also possess an essential, high-tech tool for proving your immunity to others.

Just kidding, it’s a piece of cardstock. On the flimsy rectangle that all Americans get with their shots, doctors and pharmacists record dates of administration, vaccine type, and lot number. Some scrawl the information by hand with a pen; others apply a preprinted sticker. The cards offer no special marker to prove their authenticity, no scannable code to connect to a digital record. At three by four inches, they’re even too awkwardly sized to fit in a wallet. A mid-century polio-vaccine card doesn’t look too different from today’s COVID-19 vaccination records.

Distributed by the CDC to those administering the vaccines, these cards are supposed to help recipients get the correct second dose, if needed, and offer a personal record, Jason Schwartz, a Yale public-health professor, told me. But they’ve taken on a considerably grander importance as pandemic restrictions have eased in the United States—especially now that the CDC has okayed vaccinated people going maskless in most places—because they’re the only thing available to all Americans that shows someone has been vaccinated. When you get a COVID-19 shot, the information goes into a digital record kept by the state where it was administered, and that’s the end of the road. The CDC does not hold records of individual vaccinations, and the White House has indicated that it has no plans for a federal database. (Neither the CDC nor the Department of Defense, which ran the Operation Warp Speed vaccine program, responded to my requests for comment.)

 

Don't you guys have a government health card with your photo on it and a file about your vaxx status like I have?
I needed to prove who I am in order to get two jabs. The same as voting.
Soon my government health service will give me a vaxx passport card with my photo on it.

No, we have no such federal system in the US and very specifically the CDC COVID-19 card wasn't designed to be an actual tracking document. It was a reminder document about additional shots required.

https://www.cnet.com/health/covid-19-vaccine-card-is-not-an-immunity-passport-heres-the-difference/

A coronavirus vaccination card is a wallet-sized card that details your personal coronavirus vaccine information. It's designed to be a helpful reminder for each person who receives the first shot to be aware of when they need to return to get the booster shot.

For example, one vaccine may require that you come back three weeks later, while the other may require that you return in a month for the booster.

https://www.goodrx.com/blog/how-to-prove-vaccination-for-covid-19/

When you’re vaccinated, you’ll be given a CDC card that lists information such as your name, the date when you were vaccinated, where you were vaccinated, and which vaccine you received. The cards are intended to be a reminder of when to get your second shot rather than proof that you’ve been vaccinated. However, it is possible that this may be the only record you have that you’ve received your shots, so it’s in your interest to keep the card in a safe place.
When you get vaccinated, you may also be given a printout with the same information that’s on the CDC card. It’s a good idea to hang on to any printouts you receive as you may not be able to easily replace them.

It’s important to know that the CDC does not store individual vaccination records. Therefore, the CDC cannot provide you with a record of your COVID-19 vaccination. This is why it’s essential that you hang onto your CDC card and any other documentation you’re given.

 

The place that provided my first jab sent me an email saying that they cancelled my second jab since my records showed that I already got the second jab at a different site and earlier than their record.

 

Fake Covid Vaccination Cards Are on the Rise (msn.com)

We knew that had to happen.

Ron

 

We knew that had to happen.

Ron

And it’ll continue to happen until we have vaccination passports.

 

I could walk into a drug-store today with zero ID and get a shot using any name I dream of.

Can't do that in Ohio. The took both my drivers license and medicare card and scanned it when I got my jabs, both times.

 

And it’ll continue to happen until we have vaccination passports.

Yep, pretty much so. Taking a cruise in January of next year and we already know we need our vaccination cards plus our passports. That said anyone can print a forged vaccination card. There really is not much to it, not like they even have a hologram or anything to prevent counterfeit. So where do they go from here? Create a national data base? Currently there is no way to begin to know who is and is not vaccinated. My sister was lucky as when all of this began she was on a ship which turned out to be COVID free, I would hate to be on a ship with a COVID outbreak as in nowhere to run.

Ron

 

Can't do that in Ohio. The took both my drivers license and medicare card and scanned it when I got my jabs, both times.

I don't recall them scanning our stuff but my wife, who pays attention to everything just pointed out to me they did scan our Medicare and Supplement Insurance cards. She also pointed out to me that when we get our Medicare statements the vaccinations showed up. Additionally on the Medicare monthly statement they mention "bring your Medicare card to any pharmacy for a free COVID vaccination" which really is not free. University Hospital Network in Cleveland billed Medicare something like $37 for our shots, That was each. Far be it from me to pay any attention to any of this stuff, that's all a "her" thing around here.

Ron

 

And it’ll continue to happen until we have vaccination passports.

It will still happen but the forged/faked source documents (unauthenticated cardboard or a verbal for vaccinated status) used for the vaccination passport will then have the impression of being official.

 

I don't recall them scanning our stuff but my wife, who pays attention to everything just pointed out to me they did scan our Medicare and Supplement Insurance cards. She also pointed out to me that when we get our Medicare statements the vaccinations showed up. Additionally on the Medicare monthly statement they mention "bring your Medicare card to any pharmacy for a free COVID vaccination" which really is not free. University Hospital Network in Cleveland billed Medicare something like $37 for our shots, That was each. Far be it from me to pay any attention to any of this stuff, that's all a "her" thing around here.

Ron

For my kid I didn't show them any ID or Insurance cards. I filled out the paper, signed it, she got vaccinated. I could have used any name on the document because they didn't care and didn't ask in Oregon because they made the wise decision IMO to get shots in arms for any person that wanted one instead of tracking who actually got a shot.

 

Can't do that in Ohio. The took both my drivers license and medicare card and scanned it when I got my jabs, both times.

https://ktvl.com/news/local/oregon-vaccine-eligibility-requirements-cater-to-vulnerable-populations

Jackson County, Ore. — Oregonians are not required to show any proof of identification or eligibility in order to receive the COVID-19 vaccine, despite needing to meet state-mandated eligibility requirements. One local immigration attorney and the director of a homeless organization says not requiring ID allows broader populations access to the vaccine, and caters to individuals in vulnerable situations.

"This is not an immigrant issue, a lot of Americans don't have state IDs. While it's (requiring state IDs) well intended to make sure resources go the right way, I think the state of Oregon has presupposed the situation, allowing for a verbal declaration, recognizing that there are many many valid reasons why a person may not have valid ID," John Almaguer, an immigration attorney at Idiart Law Group said.

According to the Oregon Health Authority, vaccination sites do not require proof of identification to determine eligibility for the vaccine. However, vaccine providers themselves may require an individual to declare, through a verbal declaration or in some other way, they are in an eligible group before they receive a vaccine. Almaguer said he believes the state wanted as many individuals to get vaccinated as possible.

"Viruses don't know legal status, viruses don't care if you're democrat or republican, if you are a citizen, a resident, or undocumented, viruses will take advantage of anyone they take advantage of," Almaguer said.

I've no personal opposition to vaccination passports but it's unlikely to ever be operational during this pandemic in the USA.

Most states have already said they won't have them and the feds have said there will be no national system.

https://www.beckershospitalreview.c...tates-with-bans-limitations-green-lights.html

White House press secretary Jen Psaki said April 6 that the federal government is "not now nor will be supporting a system that requires Americans to carry a credential" and that "there will be no federal vaccinations database and no federal mandate requiring everyone to obtain a single vaccination credential," according to The New York Times.

21. Massachusetts has not banned the use of vaccine passports, but Gov. Charlie Baker said in April that he opposes the technology, MIT Technology Review reported.

 

Can't even get in to see a Doc without a Government Photo ID since HIPAA. And because of HIPAA I'm surprised they would even issue the silly certification. Nobody is sposed to know about what goes on in the Docs office anymore cept the gubment and insurance clerk.

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/oth...d-still-falls-prey-to-delta-strain/ar-AAN1N9h

(Bloomberg) -- Hawaii has one of the country’s most comprehensive mask mandates and a highly effective vaccine campaign. Despite that, Covid-19 cases on the islands are climbing with a ferocity that’s outstripping every other U.S. state.

On Thursday, Hawaii recorded 655 new cases, a record since the beginning of the pandemic. Test-positivity rates surged to the highest in a year at 6.9%, according to the state’s health department.

The situation testifies to the delta variant’s strength and ability to penetrate walls of protection, restrictions and mandates. Those vaccinated have been mostly spared severe infection and illness. For those who haven’t, the risk is significant and growing.

“In Hawaii, people who are going to the hospital are unvaccinated people,” said Michael Urban, a professor in the school of health sciences at the University of New Haven in Connecticut.

Delta won't be stopped with cloth masks.

https://www.deseret.com/coronavirus/2021/8/8/22612757/delta-variant-best-face-masks-stop-it

The delta variant of the novel coronavirus is continuing to surge throughout the country — and it looks like your normal cloth face coverings won’t cut it anymore.

Which masks should you not wear?

It looks like experts are speaking out against bandanas, cloth masks and neck gaiters when it comes to the delta variant.

Osterholm said he has had issues with how masking has gone in the United States because people have not taken the best masks — like N95s — as seriously as cloth masks, according to The Hill.

• “You know I wish we could get rid of the term masking because, in fact, it implies that anything you put in front of your face works, and if I could just add a nuance to that which hopefully doesn’t add more confusion is we know today that many of the face cloth coverings that people wear are not very effective in reducing any of the virus movement in or out,” Osterholm said.