Of course the number of Covid-19 cases in Hawaii (and every where else in the world) are soaring, they are unvaccinated fools.
“In Hawaii, people who are going to the hospital are unvaccinated people,”
Vaccinated people might catch the virus but probably have minor or no symptoms so they are not counted.

 

People are getting boosters for the J&J vaccine on their own. This shows how useless the CDC card is as an accurate authenticated individual record of who's been vaccinated with what.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/u-s-hasn-t-ok-d-boosters-those-who-got-n1276225

He said his doctor recommended he seek out a Pfizer "booster." On Tuesday, he went to a local pharmacy where he assumed his insurance information was not on file and claimed he was not already vaccinated against Covid.

"I'm somebody who's generally a rule follower," Tim said. "It didn't feel good circumventing the system, so to speak, in order to do what I had to do and what my doctor recommended I do."

"It does make you feel kind of like a criminal, that you have to go about doing it this way," he added. "It's unfortunate."

Nevertheless, Tim said he now feels a "sense of relief" — and that he is better protected against delta.

 

 

 

People are getting boosters for the J&J vaccine on their own. This shows how useless the CDC card is as an accurate authenticated individual record of who's been vaccinated with what.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/u-s-hasn-t-ok-d-boosters-those-who-got-n1276225

Do I take it @nsaspook , your against the CV19 jab ?

 

Do I take it @nsaspook , your against the CV19 jab ?

Absolutely NOT. I've been vaxxed and am waiting for the booster. IMO it's madness to be against the CV19 jab unless you have a valid MD approved medical reason.

The reason for posting that was to show the unregulated nature of the COVID-19 vaccination in the US. Anyone can get a shot today (and should get a shot) or easily fake getting a shot with no means to actually verify either action other than a easily faked card.

 

Absolutely NOT. I've been vaxxed and am waiting for the booster. IMO it's madness to be against the CV19 jab unless you have a valid MD approved medical reason.

My apologies @nsaspook
I was skim reading your posts , and seems wrongly came to that conclusion.

You in Us ?
Im in europe,
looking over the water at the US ,

I was wondering why states like Florida and Texas as reported here as having high rising rates and low vaccination rates.

Wondering what the US view is ,

BTW: Yes, were all vaccinated, and I see no reason not to be,
Same goes for wearing a mask, and washing hands, why not,

 

My apologies @nsaspook
I was skim reading your posts , and seems wrongly came to that conclusion.

You in Us ?
Im in europe,
looking over the water at the US ,

I was wondering why states like Florida and Texas as reported here as having high rising rates and low vaccination rates.

Wondering what the US view is ,

BTW: Yes, were all vaccinated, and I see no reason not to be,
Same goes for wearing a mask, and washing hands, why not,

I would say you need glasses if you came to that conclusion from actually reading my posts as there is zero anti-vaxx content to them IMO and a hell of a lot of 'get vaccinated' in them.

There is no US view for the virus, it simply infects those that can be infected.

States with low vax rates will have more cases but even states with high vax rates still have large numbers of unvaccinated left to be infected like Hawaii . Personally I'm far more worried about increasing the vaxx levels in the population to reduce sickness and deaths than ineffective methods to identify and segregate the unvaccinated.

 

I would say you need glasses if you came to that conclusion from actually reading my posts as there is zero anti-vaxx content to them IMO and a hell of a lot of 'get vaccinated' in them.

There is no US view for the virus, it simply infects those that can be infected.

States with low vax rates will have more cases but even states with high vax rates still have large numbers of unvaccinated left to be infected like Hawaii . Personally I'm far more worried about increasing the vaxx levels in the population to reduce sickness and deaths than ineffective methods to identify and segregate the unvaccinated.

again @nsaspook, my apologies.

Do the US have state by state by state laws, on things like face masks, who can do what with and without a vaccine certificate or is there a country wide system ?

Whats happening on the age range,
In the UK, government has highly bought into the astra zenics / oxford jab,
I think thats why were only just getting to the 16 to 18 group, which need Phizer,
does US have state my state purchasing of the vax or is it "central"

Sorry,
Im just really nosey,
the US system is so "allien" to us europeans, your so big compared to european countries,
and your distributed goverment is confusing to me

Have good night,
stay safe.

 

again @nsaspook, my apologies.

Do the US have state by state by state laws, on things like face masks, who can do what with and without a vaccine certificate or is there a country wide system ?

state laws on some topics, federal laws on others, State and Federal recommendations (may be different). Some state governors, especially those that do not want Federal interference in their rule-making ability, are Rey forceful in telling local authorities they cannot have autonomy in making local rules (city, county or school district level) - very two-faced.

Whats happening on the age range,
In the UK, government has highly bought into the astra zenics / oxford jab,
I think thats why were only just getting to the 16 to 18 group, which need Phizer,
does US have state my state purchasing of the vax or is it "central"

central. Age of approval is well published

Sorry,
Im just really nosey,
the US system is so "allien" to us europeans, your so big compared to european countries,
and your distributed goverment is confusing to me

it is confusing to many Americans as well and people with hidden agendas or foreign influence/propaganda/social disruption campaigns take advantage of the confusing system to cause more chaos and death than any other country has seen.

Have good night,
stay safe.

 

Yes, it's state by state rule for things outside the federal control domain. The problem in the US is not supply at the local, state or federal level as we have plenty of vaccines, the problem is putting that vaccine into the arms of the unvaccinated in a land where every person is their own Castle. Half of the entire US population have been fully vaccinated in less than a year but states like Mississippi’s are at 35% .
https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-cov...data-on-covid-19-vaccinations-race-ethnicity/


The state of Oregon has lifted almost all state mandates for face masks, proof of vaccination, social distancing, a negative COVID test.” and other mandates with exceptions for health care, schools and state government. Local business can require those but most don't. We are a higher end vaxx level state. Cases have risen but the deaths are still at the same low level in the elderly sick as they have been for months here.
https://projects.oregonlive.com/coronavirus/

 

@MrSalts and @nsaspook,

Thank you so much for the replies,

I know when O come over, that I have problem with state, and local tax's , or is that local and government , see I'm confused.

being so much smaller, the UK is much easier to organise,

And were the ones that are meant to be " an Englishman's home is a castle"

https://wordhistories.net/2017/07/26/englishmans-home-castle-origin/

stay safe you guys ,

 

I don't recall them scanning our stuff but my wife, who pays attention to everything just pointed out to me they did scan our Medicare and Supplement Insurance cards.

got mine at a Walgreens and that may be why I had to show my drivers license, the hospital already knew who you and the wife were.

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/e...ists-race-to-understand-its-tricks/ar-AAN58B4

Because the delta variant replicates so well when it gets inside human cells, the infectious dose may be lower. Infected people may also begin shedding the virus sooner and in greater quantities. It’s a numbers game, and delta has numbers on its side. Rapid replication of the virus has probably shortened the period between a person getting infected and becoming infectious, to perhaps two or three days rather than five or six.

The flip side is that the delta surge is expected to peak faster. A more contagious virus finds susceptible people quickly and burns through that “fuel” faster. This may explain why the United Kingdom and India have both experienced surprisingly swift drop in cases after recent delta surges.
...
He knows it can’t keep evolving to become more transmissible forever. Eventually, the virus will hit a ceiling, he said.

“But it’s not exactly clear what that is.”

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/09/cov...-brilliant-on-delta-variant-vaccinations.html

Brilliant said his models on the Covid outbreak in San Francisco and New York predict an “inverted V-shape epidemic curve.” That implies that infections increase very quickly, but would also decline rapidly, he explained.

If the prediction turns out be true, it means that the delta variant spreads so quickly that “it basically runs out of candidates” to infect, explained Brilliant.

There appears to be a similar pattern in the U.K. and India, where the spread of the delta variant has receded from recent highs.

Looks like Delta is near the thermodynamic sweet spot for SARS-CoV-2.

The epidemiologist said there is a low probability that a “super variant” may emerge and vaccines don’t work against it. While it’s hard to predict these things, he added, it’s a non-zero probability, which means it cannot be ruled out.

“It’s such a catastrophic event should it occur, we have to do everything possible to prevent it,” said Brilliant. “And that means get everyone vaccinated — not just in your neighborhood, not just in your family, not just in your country but all over the world.”

Reduce the fuel, get vaccinated.

 

But some people are flexing their "rights" and avoid getting vaccinated. These candidates to get the Delta variant of the virus will be dead soon.

 

But some people are flexing their "rights" and avoid getting vaccinated. These candidates to get the Delta variant of the virus will be dead soon.

You do understand that everyone who catches the virus be it the Delta Variant or other does not always die from the virus don't you? While I strongly support vaccination those who decline vaccination are not "flexing" their rights but rather exercising their rights to decline vaccination. There is no "flexing" of anything.

Ron

 

People who do not get vaccinated are using their "rights" to boast to their friends that they are stronger than most weak people who do get vaccinated. They will be sorry for it. All of us will be sorry that they are prolonging the virus.

 

[As moderator:] Enough vitriol, please.

 

vitriol, please.

Vitriol? Is that a new covid treatment?

 

Vitriol? Is that a new covid treatment?

Some people seem to think so ... but it's proven very ineffective among the irrationally skeptic and unconvinced .... in fact, what it does most of the time is backfire on whoever uses it and makes the recipients dig even deeper foundations into their fact-free objections to the truth and cling tighter to their alternate reality of conspiracy theories and patently debunked disinformation ...

What I find amusing is how soon people forget old absurd beliefs and enthusiastically embrace new, more fashionable ones ... say, whatever happened to the evils of 5G?