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nsaspook

Joined Aug 27, 2009
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There is much more money to make selling government-promoted/mandated vaccines than vitamin-D.
We need both.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/09/14/sup...y-to-help-keep-his-immune-system-healthy.html
According to Dr. Anthony Fauci, most “so-called immune boosting supplements” actually do “nothing.” However, there are two vitamins Fauci does recommend to help keep your immune system healthy.

“If you are deficient in vitamin D, that does have an impact on your susceptibility to infection. So I would not mind recommending, and I do it myself taking vitamin D supplements,” Fauci, 79, said during an Instagram Live on Thursday, when actress Jennifer Garner asked Fauci about immune-boosting supplements.
 

nsaspook

Joined Aug 27, 2009
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https://www.fda.gov/news-events/pre...authorized-dosing-schedules-covid-19-vaccines
We know that some of these discussions about changing the dosing schedule or dose are based on a belief that changing the dose or dosing schedule can help get more vaccine to the public faster. However, making such changes that are not supported by adequate scientific evidence may ultimately be counterproductive to public health.

We have committed time and time again to make decisions based on data and science. Until vaccine manufacturers have data and science supporting a change, we continue to strongly recommend that health care providers follow the FDA-authorized dosing schedule for each COVID-19 vaccine.
 

402DF855

Joined Feb 9, 2013
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Lack of sun exposure may well be a key factor for these viruses tending to outbreak in winter months. One might consider supplementing vitamin D. (2/17/2020)
Recently Dr. Fauci said:
So I would not mind recommending, and I do it myself taking vitamin D supplements
So I, lowly code monkey, beat the Great and Powerful Fauci by nearly a year in recommending vitamin D. And some here bemoan questioning and second guessing the so-called experts? Give me a break.
 

Reloadron

Joined Jan 15, 2015
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Every winter season our primary care physician places my wife and I on Vitamin D. Sitting here in NE Ohio most days are cold and grey and we seldom see much sun so we get prescription vitamin D. One pill per week till around May. Does it matter or help? Beats me but it doesn't hurt. Been doing this for years or likely a decade or two.

Ron
 

Reloadron

Joined Jan 15, 2015
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There are many deeply invested in the desire that Covid be a major catastrophe -- one from which only centralized authoritative power can save us.
Some people place their trust in government which is cool with me if they trust government. Looking to a higher authority there is always God for those who believe but they do say the lord helps those who help themselves. Personally given the performance of government I place my trust in the works of Sam Colt or John Browning and will not rule out a few others.

What COVID seems to have done is given people something to blame things on. Can't get my mail? COVID. Everything and anything wrong seems to go back to COVID. God gives us Wisdom and I suggest some people apply that.

No rather than centralized authoritative power I will place my trust where it should be placed.
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Thank You and Have a Nice Day. :)

Ron
 

joeyd999

Joined Jun 6, 2011
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Some people place their trust in government which is cool with me if they trust government. Looking to a higher authority there is always God for those who believe but they do say the lord helps those who help themselves. Personally given the performance of government I place my trust in the works of Sam Colt or John Browning and will not rule out a few others.

What COVID seems to have done is given people something to blame things on. Can't get my mail? COVID. Everything and anything wrong seems to go back to COVID. God gives us Wisdom and I suggest some people apply that.

No rather than centralized authoritative power I will place my trust where it should be placed.
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Thank You and Have a Nice Day. :)

Ron
My Glock feels the same way.
 

wayneh

Joined Sep 9, 2010
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We need both.
Maybe. But if you put the pieces together that most Americans (and even most people) are deficient in vitamin D and that a good level of vitamin D reduces mortality rates 10-fold, I conclude that the pandemic could have been 10-fold less a crisis if only we had proactively corrected the previously known vitamin D deficiency. (Magnesium is another easy, cheap fix.) That would have made it barely a blip in the news and nobody would have spent the requisite fortune developing a vaccine.

Never let a crisis go to waste.
 

justtrying

Joined Mar 9, 2011
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Vitamin C, D, magnesium and zinc go a long way in supporting inmmune system and overall health.

If nothing else, this should be a wake up call to take care of your health (obesity is preventable, so is diabetes and many of other chronic conditions that are prevalent in first world countries).

Making health crisis a political circus creating more divisions is the lowest one can go I think. This "crisis" will be over sooner then expected I am pretty sure as there is no more money for the theatrics.
 

SamR

Joined Mar 19, 2019
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Somewhat strange as to the Vitamin D issue is that at this time Arizona is the hardest-hit state. I always correlated Arizona with desert sunshine.

I put my trust in my two friend Mr. Smith and Mr. Wesson. Or I can drag out my .44 Remington SS Buntline Special blackpowder revolver. If I want to go real old school.

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wayneh

Joined Sep 9, 2010
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Somewhat strange as to the Vitamin D issue is that at this time Arizona is the hardest-hit state. I always correlated Arizona with desert sunshine.
Yes, I looked into this. Lower latitudes do tend to have less trouble but it’s confounded by the fact that people all over spend more time indoors than out. If you live in Texas and it’s sunny summer outside, you’re inside with the A/C cranked. Only a direct measurement of serum vitamin D is predictive.
 

MrSalts

Joined Apr 2, 2020
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The concept in the meta-data study that people who've tested with vitamin D deficiency in the last year before getting corona virus diagnosis they somehow have higher likely of bad outcome. When my brother and wife tested low, they were given the weekly megadose supplements for 6-weeks, and retested into a normal range. Presumably, the authors would have selected people like my wife and brother who were treated for their deficiency. Not sure how they are now somehow at risk. I'm guessing there are deeper rooted causation factors for people who tested deficient in the past year and were likely treated for the deficiency and then tested positive for Covid.

Notice that even the authors of the paper admit in the last pages of the paper that it is a correlation until proven in a double-blind test that it is a causation. There is no doubt that vitamin D is essential to supporting immune responses but claiming, no need to worry about Corona virus is a claim even the authors will not make, even though some engineers of various specialties seem willing to make.
 

402DF855

Joined Feb 9, 2013
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Somewhat strange as to the Vitamin D issue is that at this time Arizona is the hardest-hit state.
1) According to covid.cdc.gov, ND is the hardest hit. (172 deaths per 100k.)
2) Darker skin means less vitamin D production.
3) Possible cultural aversion to tanning by Hispanics.
4) Low income and obesity are risk factors.
 

MrSalts

Joined Apr 2, 2020
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The JAMA article referenced in the video called "Vitamin D, First Clinical Trial" - not a "clinical Trial" at all, just a meta-data analysis. But I didn't expect much from the Narrator - he's the guy promoting the idea that dinosaurs died from vitamin D deficiency after the meteor hit. A fatal case of rickets. Ha! I'm sure that was the final nail in dino's coffin.
 

Reloadron

Joined Jan 15, 2015
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Florhaug dismissed any concerns about endangering anyone, saying he only "flashed the gun."
Flash it or brandish it matters not. He and his CCW permit are toast. You simply do not do stuff like that. As to the wearing of a mask? I can see where wearing a mask may cause some discomfort while working out but that should be a matter of something for the club to deal with, lodge a complaint and leave. I doubt the laws concerning CCW in Florida say it's OK to brandish a gun because you are angry. This entire COVID thing has people doing some incredibly stupid stuff but apparently this guy was not the brightest bulb on anyone's Christmas Tree.

Ron
 

nsaspook

Joined Aug 27, 2009
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https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/05/sou...te-antibody-drugs-dr-scott-gottlieb-says.html
Gottlieb cited experimental evidence from Bloom Lab, and explained 501.V2 does appear to partially escape prior immunity. It means that some of the antibodies people produce when they get infected with Covid, as well as the antibody drugs, may not be quite as effective.

“The new variant has mutated a part of the spike protein that our antibodies bind to, to try to clear the virus itself, so this is concerning,” Gottlieb said. “Now, the vaccine can become a backstop against these variants really getting more of a foothold here in the United States, but we need to quicken the pace of vaccination.”
 
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