Coronavirus?!

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nsaspook

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https://www.lamayor.org/sites/g/files/wph446/f/page/file/20201202 Mayor Public Order Targeted SAH Order_1.pdf
Subject only to the exceptions outlined in this Order, all persons living within the City of Los Angeles are hereby ordered to remain in their homes. Residents of the City of Los Angeles who are experiencing homelessness are exempt from this requirement.
Only the homeless are 'free' in LA. :eek:

Time traveler from 2020 at 2:53

IV. All travel, including, without limitation, travel on foot, bicycle, scooter, motorcycle, automobile, or public transit is prohibited, subject to the exceptions in Paragraph V. V. Exceptions.
 
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nsaspook

Joined Aug 27, 2009
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Free to get sick. Free to inoculate other they interact with (other homeless ?). Free to act as a Petri dish to facilitate virus mutation.
The cost of freedom is high. They are free because no sane person would touch them for lockdown rules violations.
https://www.nbclosangeles.com/inves...geles-garbage-problem-trash-homeless/2446368/
Across the street from brand new apartments on Madison Avenue in Los Angeles sits a mountain of uncollected trash so big it now spans nearly the entire block.

The trash is piling up because nearby homeless encampments that used to get regular cleanups by the city of LA no longer get them.

Huge trash heaps can now be spotted in LA neighborhoods that have homeless encampments--including the San Fernando Valley, Venice Beach, and downtown.

"The stench around here is horrific. Bodily fluids everywhere," said Estela Lopez, who represents businesses in the Central City East area near downtown, where there are thousands of homeless tents. "It's been six months since these sidewalks have been cleaned."
But the last six months, the city hasn't asked homeless residents to move their tents in most areas, citing fears about spreading COVID-19.

The result is that some city streets are littered with months of uncollected trash that's not only attracting rodents and fleas--a longstanding problem--but now maggots are covering some sidewalks and entering buildings.

 
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Reloadron

Joined Jan 15, 2015
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Well let's see. A few weeks ago my niece tested positive. Mid 30s and her biggest complaint was she was tired along with a few other flu like symptoms. Next was my son, again early 30s. He tested positive and a few common symptoms with a loss of smell and taste. He was knocking down Vodka along with cranberry juice. His wife tested negative and still is as of yesterday.

Now I see a home test available. Of course if you test positive the government will crawl into your personal life. I was done with all of this months ago. I see it as a matter of not if but when we develop COVID. Maybe I can get some antibodies from my son or niece? :)

Ron
 

justtrying

Joined Mar 9, 2011
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Well let's see. A few weeks ago my niece tested positive. Mid 30s and her biggest complaint was she was tired along with a few other flu like symptoms. Next was my son, again early 30s. He tested positive and a few common symptoms with a loss of smell and taste. He was knocking down Vodka along with cranberry juice. His wife tested negative and still is as of yesterday.

Now I see a home test available. Of course if you test positive the government will crawl into your personal life. I was done with all of this months ago. I see it as a matter of not if but when we develop COVID. Maybe I can get some antibodies from my son or niece? :)

Ron
Only way to stop it is to lock everyone in place and have it starve. Russia still has to manage rare plague outbreaks in rural communities and that is how they are stopped - if one emerges in a community, it is isolated and locked down until issue is dealt with. Long time ago there was an attempt to irradicate it, but it was not feasable even in a totalitarian regime.

But people are truly stupid - there is a local yoga studio that is open and are letting people go in to exercise with their "bubble" provided everyone sanitizes after their session. My question is - how good is their air exchange and how much time do they space between the groups? Because ventilation is the biggest issue and I wouldnt touch a gym with a 10 ft pole in normal days :)
 

xox

Joined Sep 8, 2017
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Well let's see. A few weeks ago my niece tested positive. Mid 30s and her biggest complaint was she was tired along with a few other flu like symptoms. Next was my son, again early 30s. He tested positive and a few common symptoms with a loss of smell and taste. He was knocking down Vodka along with cranberry juice. His wife tested negative and still is as of yesterday.



Now I see a home test available. Of course if you test positive the government will crawl into your personal life. I was done with all of this months ago. I see it as a matter of not if but when we develop COVID. Maybe I can get some antibodies from my son or niece? :)



Ron
As long as people are staying hydrated, fed, and airways clear, there isn't much to worry about. Eventually most of us will generate enough antibodies to fight it off. Still going to be an issue for people with certain pre-existing conditions however, not to mention the elderly. For most of us though, not much more dangerous than the common flu.
 

Reloadron

Joined Jan 15, 2015
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there is a local yoga studio that is open and are letting people go in to exercise with their "bubble" provided everyone sanitizes after their session. My question is - how good is their air exchange and how much time do they space between the groups? Because ventilation is the biggest issue and I wouldnt touch a gym with a 10 ft pole in normal days :)
My niece and her husband have been working from home and all their food is delivered. Her only outing were guess where? To her gym. Go figure huh? One of the same gyms screaming how they wipe everything down. The last place I want to be is a gym. Anyway, as I have mentioned before if I get it then I get it. While at 70 I could be better I figure I am lacking any serious health issues. Whatever will be will be and that's about it, like the song goes.

Ron
 

MrSalts

Joined Apr 2, 2020
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My niece and her husband have been working from home and all their food is delivered. Her only outing were guess where? To her gym. Go figure huh? One of the same gyms screaming how they wipe everything down. The last place I want to be is a gym. Anyway, as I have mentioned before if I get it then I get it. While at 70 I could be better I figure I am lacking any serious health issues. Whatever will be will be and that's about it, like the song goes.

Ron
Ohio just issued new travel restrictions...

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ericgibbs

Joined Jan 29, 2010
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hi,
Long Covid.
It appears that the long term load being placed on a countries Medical and Social services by Long Covid is going to be serious problem for many years.

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Clip:
The surveys showed there are a wide range of recurring symptoms experienced by patients, regardless of whether they were hospitalised, affecting the respiratory system, the brain, cardiovascular system and heart, the kidneys, the gut, the liver, and the skin. The report said these symptoms range in intensity and duration, and do not necessarily present in a linear or sequential manner.

https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m3981
 

Reloadron

Joined Jan 15, 2015
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They tell me New Cases but neglect Recovered Cases. They tell me the number of new hospital admissions but neglect sharing how many people were released from hospitals. Then they come up with this:

"Ohio Department of Health now recommending those in Ohio avoid traveling to Ohio"

What exactly does that mean? I should stay home? Think I'll go to the indoor range and sens a few hundred rounds downrange. That always makes me feel better. :)

Ron
 

nsaspook

Joined Aug 27, 2009
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https://www.lmtonline.com/news/article/New-Mexico-shut-down-nearly-everything-to-keep-15778165.php

New Mexico shut down nearly everything to keep hospitals from being overwhelmed by covid. It wasn't enough.
The dire state of New Mexico's covid fight reflects just how pernicious an opponent the coronavirus really is, and how it can outlast or outmaneuver even the most stalwart efforts to keep it in check.

New Mexico has consistently won praise among public health experts for its aggressive approach to combating the virus. Lujan Grisham issued a stay-at-home order in March when there were fewer than 100 cases statewide, and she has gone as far as locking down entire cities to stem the spread.

A study by Oxford University found that the state's approach was among the most restrictive - and also the most successful, with New Mexico dodging the spring and summer surges that afflicted so many other states.

https://www.tampabay.com/news/healt...ronavirus-than-locked-down-states-politifact/
Broadly speaking, we found that Florida’s record, at least as of the beginning of December, compared favorably with most states across the country, including those with tighter restrictions. Specifically, in comparisons of coronavirus cases deaths and hospitalizations per capita, Florida ranked among the best, and better than some of the more highly regulated states. (Click on the chart to see separate comparisons for cases, deaths, and hospitalizations.)
Why might Florida be doing relatively well?
The comparison with other lightly regulated states suggests that Florida may be doing relatively well for reasons other than its low-regulation policy.

For example, Florida’s weather makes it easier for residents to eat and gather outdoors, even at this time of year. Scientists have generally said that the virus passes from person to person less easily outdoors than in cramped indoor spaces.

“I think it’s reasonable to say that the warmer weather certainly plays a part in Florida’s relative success,” said Brooke Nichols, an infectious-disease mathematical modeler at the Boston University School of Public Health. “It’s no longer incredibly hot, necessitating indoor gathering for air conditioning, but not too cold that people need to congregate indoors for heat.”
 

cmartinez

Joined Jan 17, 2007
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A game changer?


Treatment of SARS-CoV-2 infection with a new antiviral drug, MK-4482/EIDD-2801 or Molnupiravir, completely suppresses virus transmission within 24 hours, researchers in the Institute for Biomedical Sciences at Georgia State University have discovered.
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If these ferret-based data translate to humans, COVID-19 patients treated with the drug could become non-infectious within 24 hours after the beginning of treatment.
 

SamR

Joined Mar 19, 2019
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It might also be the local Florida residents are staying home and out of bars and restaurants, unlike the Snowbirds.
 
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