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joeyd999

Joined Jun 6, 2011
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IMO that failed the dark humor test.
Whatever. I have little sympathy for those who kill themselves. I value life too much.

Besides, most who do do it with the intention of hurting those around them, not themselves. I refuse to give them the satisfaction of feeling sorry for them.

And yes, I have experienced the suicide of a close family member.

All I felt was anger.
 

nsaspook

Joined Aug 27, 2009
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Whatever. I have little sympathy for those who kill themselves. I value life too much.

Besides, most who do do it with the intention of hurting those around them, not themselves. I refuse to give them the satisfaction of feeling sorry for them.

And yes, I have experienced the suicide of a close family member.

All I felt was anger.
I agree with sympathy (I can't share that feeling) that but there is a minimal level of empathy I have for the dead even for those declared as enemies.
 
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nsaspook

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But just how resistant to COVID-19 is someone suffering from severe malnutrition likely to be? I'm guessing not very.
In Africa I've seen the effects of Malaria and Diarrhoea wipe out scores of otherwise healthy young men. I'm thinking COVID-19 will be a speed bump.
 

WBahn

Joined Mar 31, 2012
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In Africa I've seen the effects of Malaria and Diarrhoea wipe out scores of otherwise healthy young men. I'm thinking COVID-19 will be a speed bump.
I don't know. Measles takes a huge toll each year in that part of world and the seasonal flu also takes a significantly higher rate, with the mortality rate perhaps 10x that of Europe and the U.S.. There's not much reason think that COVID-19 wouldn't follow that same pattern.
 

joeyd999

Joined Jun 6, 2011
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And apparently, in your eyes, those close to the people that committed suicide deserve the same level of scorn.
It wasn't scorn, and -- though my post was in reply to yours -- the thought was not directed at you.

I'll repeat myself if I wasn't clear earlier: suicide makes me angry. Really, really angry.

Call it one of my few faults.
 

djsfantasi

Joined Apr 11, 2010
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I find this interesting. This is for the State of Florida:

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The daily increase in absolute numbers seems to vary greatly, but the percent positive (with respect to number of tests) is (and has been) pretty much consistent.

I think we should just assume 10 percent infected, and leave it at that...
Works for Florida. Maybe. But the rate is highly dependent on opportunities for transmission, effectiveness of prophylactic actions and population sizes. Plus likely other factors. Which factors are important are must be identified before a more general model can be trusted.
 

djsfantasi

Joined Apr 11, 2010
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Well it sounds like you did. You'll get insulted once in a while that's what happens on the net sometimes. It could be a misunderstanding, but you chose not to give enough it time to peter out.

I guess post #2315 insulted you too. The way you talk sometimes makes your viewpoint sound a little in left field, that is, biased in a strong way. It's entirely up to you though what you choose to believe in the lack of hard facts.
As a matter of fact, post #2315 was not insulting. IMO, it was a simple misunderstanding and the slur was based on that.

In the latter case, an unwarranted conclusion was reached.

It is frustrating that sometimes I have difficulty expressing myself. But c’est la vie.

It’s all good!
 

wayneh

Joined Sep 9, 2010
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One thing that developing countries have in their favor is a young population. Hopefully that should limit the death rate to manageable numbers.
I may be wrong about where they live but I believe they have geography on their side as well. Fatality rate jumps at latitudes above 35 degrees, presumably due to vitamin D deficiency at the higher latitudes.
 

shortbus

Joined Sep 30, 2009
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Her one injection she needs blood work before having it done and we are overdue on a few scans but fortunately all of the heavy lifting is done. I guess when they sort of reopen for regulat business things will resume.
For my wifes home dialysis she has blood work every two weeks, The clinic has her drive up and call them, the nurse then comes out to the car all gowned up and draws the blood through the car window. This is in a portico drop off type area at the clinic.
 

djsfantasi

Joined Apr 11, 2010
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For my wifes home dialysis she has blood work every two weeks, The clinic has her drive up and call them, the nurse then comes out to the car all gowned up and draws the blood through the car window. This is in a portico drop off type area at the clinic.
Seems like a throwback to the 50s. But instead of burgers and fries, nurses on roller skates hook you up to dialysis.
 

Reloadron

Joined Jan 15, 2015
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For my wifes home dialysis she has blood work every two weeks, The clinic has her drive up and call them, the nurse then comes out to the car all gowned up and draws the blood through the car window. This is in a portico drop off type area at the clinic.
Corona aside for a moment. Kathy, my wife, gets Xgeva Shots. Long story short lost left kidney years ago. Cancer returned as kidney cancer in lungs. Nailed it with intense radiation. Then suddenly her right leg snapped. Turns out cancer literally ate through femur bone. OK, replaced femur, knee and partial hip. Going well and oh yeah, more intense radiation on leg. Things are good. She is up and around with help from walker. Anyway this Xgeva develops bone but blood test before injections to make sure your calcium levels are up enough since the stuff sucks up calcium. We have medicare and have always had a very good (albeit expensive) supplement insurance. That Xgeva is about $11,000 per injection and the stuff is in a tiny little 1.0 mg vial. I was like WTF? Before cancer I was clueless as to the cost of some drugs. She was getting one injection per month and now the blood work needs done at least 3 days prior while before it was all one day. Anyway, yeah $11K for a single injection. She is now out to every two months.

Had friends who had HEP C. Those new pills work but you take one pill per day for 90 days at $1,000 per pill. Go figure? I have no idea what Corona is costing. Sure as hell won't be cheap.

Ron
 

nsaspook

Joined Aug 27, 2009
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A nugget for @shortbus

https://www.thedailybeast.com/suddenly-singapores-coronavirus-cases-skyrocketed-heres-why
SINGAPORE — Singapore now has the highest number of COVID-19 cases in Southeast Asia, at 11,178, as of April 23. The daily coronavirus infection rate reached a new high of 1,426 as I write. Just over a month ago, Singapore, with 5.7 million people living in the limited space of 720 square kilometers (447 square miles), was praised for its response to the pandemic.

My city-state is known for its world-class health system, public housing, infrastructure, and effective governance. The government and our public institutions learned from their coordinated, collective response to the SARS epidemic of 2003, and the situation seemed fully under control regarding COVID-19. So what happened?
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We need to raise the bar for economic, social, environmental, and gender justice to shape a post-Covid world that will be better prepared to prevent a medical crisis from turning into another human tragedy. My hope is that this pandemic will force a profound mind-set change for people and our planet.
The solution, cane the virus out of people. North Korea has zero cases because they use bullets.
 
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