Ever gone to Heart Attack Burgers in Vegas? ... sounds like that kind of place.

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They have burgers? I want milk with mine.

 

Just found out I lost two more family members (gf family, actually). A dad and his 30-something son.

That’s EIGHT! Please, no one tell me this isn’t serious.

Neither was elderly nor did they have any existing health conditions.

 

Just found out I lost two more family members (gf family, actually). A dad and his 20-something son.

That’s EIGHT! Please, no one tell me this isn’t serious.

We can believe it's both extremely serious and unnecessary to shred our way of life for 18 months waiting for a promised cure. Balance is nature's way.

 

We can believe it's both extremely serious and unnecessary to shred our way of life for 18 months waiting for a promised cure. Balance is nature's way.
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Then f# nature. He had 4 children including a 2 month old infant. His wife and children are getting repeated tests. What will happen to balance when they all die.

 

The uncle of a very good friend of mine was the first CV casualty registered in Monterrey. The curve is beginning to reach its maximum slope, with between 150 and 200 new cases reported in the city each day. This pandemic is real alright. But only the next couple of years will tell how serious it really is. And most importantly, how serious it could've been if it were not for governments acting on isolation and social distancing. Sorry for all your losses Dj, I truly hope your relative's families can find a way forward after all this.

 

Then f# nature. He had 4 children including a 2 month old infant. His wife and children are getting repeated tests. What will happen to balance when they all die.

I understand your emotions but nature and the universe don't give an f#. Thinking that we can fully contain CONVID-19 for nearly 2 years without destroying the soul of American culture is magical thinking.

 

Then f# nature. He had 4 children including a 2 month old infant. His wife and children are getting repeated tests. What will happen to balance when they all die.

I understand where you're coming from, but it is still very much a balance thing at the big level. The six kids left behind when the parents are killed in a car crash on an icy road or hit by a tractor-trailer don't feel any less of a loss than the kids of parents who die from corona virus or a terrorist attack or any other cause of death. Just think of the lives that could probably be saved by assigning slots to vehicles of difference size so that only heavy vehicles can be on the road during these hours while only subcompacts at these hours and only two-wheel vehicles at these hours. That way when accidents do happen, they are between vehicles of comparable size and thus much more survivable. So why don't we do that? Wouldn't the personal inconvenience and economic impact be worth to save all of those lives?

 

Ever gone to Heart Attack Burgers in Vegas? ... sounds like that kind of place.

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I will now!

 

I understand your emotions but nature and the universe don't give an f#. Thinking that we can fully contain CONVID-19 for nearly 2 years without destroying the soul of American culture is magical thinking.

Yeah... yes, you’re right. I had just that second heard the news and my emotions got the better of me.

Thanks for your patience. And you, too, @WBahn

 

Yeah... yes, you’re right. I had just that second heard the news and my emotions got the better of me.

Thanks for your patience. And you, too, @WBahn

You and your family have suffered this event far above the norm. If there is such a thing as karma, perhaps you're due for a change of luck.

My grandparents' generation suffered terrific losses from WW I and the Spanish flu. I am here to write this only because of some very good luck. My grandfather was gassed in the Argonne and probably caught the flu to boot. Then he missed the boat home because he caught the mumps. Missing that boat might have saved his life, and mine. We're not privy to such plans.

Our ancestors saw grief and agonizing loss that few of us today could bear. And yet here we are. Life finds a way.

 

I'm not sure if the quote is true, but I agree with it 100%:

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That Xgeva is about $11,000 per injection and the stuff is in a tiny little 1.0 mg vial.

Yep the Embrell they have me on is $8500/mo. with weekly injections I self-administer. It is absolutely unbelievable not only that there even is a medication, but the outrageous cost of it. A cousin had his kidney transplant as a teenager and has had to take horribly expensive medication to prevent organ rejection for over 45 years now. Thank goodness for insurance.

 

I'm not sure if the quote is true, but I agree with it 100%:

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If it is war then the best we can expect is to win this battle with acceptable losses. We can't win the war and can't stay at a war footing for long periods of time without destroying what we want to save.

 

As a matter of fact, post #2315 was not insulting. IMO, it was a simple misunderstanding and the slur was based on that.

In the latter case, an unwarranted conclusion was reached.

It is frustrating that sometimes I have difficulty expressing myself. But c’est la vie.

It’s all good!

Hi,

Oh ok no problem thanks for the clarification.

Yes it's all good

Check out the quote in the next post assuming i get another post in before someone else.

 

Here is a great example quote of why people are worried.
This is a quote by C. S. Lewis. This isnt really political though it is just about freedoms.

Definitions...
Cupidity: greed for money or possessions.
Satiate: another term for sate: to satisfy.

C.S. Lewis
“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good
of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better
to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral
busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep,
his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who
torment us for our own good will torment us without end for
they do so with the approval of their own conscience.”

 

Definitions...
Cupidity: greed for money or possessions.
Satiate: another term for sate: to satisfy.

CS Lewis is awesome -- especially his political writings.

But you didn't have to be so condescending as to provide definitions.

 

Just found out I lost two more family members (gf family, actually). A dad and his 30-something son.

That’s EIGHT! Please, no one tell me this isn’t serious.

Neither was elderly nor did they have any existing health conditions.

That's unusual. I chat with friends and neighbors and family and to date do not even know of anyone diagnosed with it.

I can understand the pai9n of losing loved ones as well as the frustration but the bottom line is nothing is going to change for awhile.

Ron

 

Seems like a throwback to the 50s. But instead of burgers and fries, nurses on roller skates hook you up to dialysis.

Not quite, she does peritoneal dialysis at home every night. They are just drawing blood for her test.

 

Long story short lost left kidney years ago.

My wife, saint Pat(as the family calls her for putting up with me) lost her right kidney in the early 1980s. Not to cancer but to a kidney stone! Instead of passing it just kept getting larger and destroying it. Went for all those years with just one, and it's still functioning but not so good now so shes on peritoneal dialysis. A tube implanted through the skin and hooks up to a machine that cycles a solution in and out of her body over night.

 

That's unusual. I chat with friends and neighbors and family and to date do not even know of anyone diagnosed with it.

I can understand the pai9n of losing loved ones as well as the frustration but the bottom line is nothing is going to change for awhile.

Ron

Where do you live? Boston has the third most deaths in the country, after NY and NJ.