Here is your chance to get COVID-19 and maybe save lives.
https://1daysooner.org/

https://thehill.com/policy/healthca...dea-to-speed-coronavirus-vaccine-gains-ground

An idea that might seem outlandish at first is gaining some ground as a way to speed development of a coronavirus vaccine: intentionally infecting people with the virus as part of a trial.

The idea, known as a “challenge trial,” would deliberately infect a few hundred young, healthy volunteers, who were first given either the potential vaccine or a placebo. Those picked would be well informed about the risks.

 

https://thehill.com/opinion/healthc...in-stop-the-panic-and-end-the-total-isolation

 

Welcome aboard, my wife's cancer treatments are on hold. Fortunately we were in the winding down stages anyway. Her one injection she needs blood work before having it done and we are overdue on a few scans but fortunately all of the heavy lifting is done. I guess when they sort of reopen for regulat business things will resume.

Ron

As are my father’s cancer treatments.

If you believe, maybe there is a message here.

 

What's your best guess on the likely to catch COVID-19 than the seasonal flu question?
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html

I don't think anything in that data addresses that question at all (nor was it meant to). The testing that establishes the "confirmed cases" is anything but random.

And then there is the ill-defined meaning of "likelihood to catch". Is it talking about the likelihood to catch it from a single interaction? Or the cumulative likelihood to catch it? The likelihood will be a lot different between the two, but I think that the ratio between COVID-19 and the flu would be roughly the same regardless of which you are looking at. I think we are talking single digits, probably 3 to 5? But that's just because the flu is already so highly contagious that it's really hard to be significantly more so.

 

As are my father’s cancer treatments.

If you believe, maybe there is d message here.

Yeah, the message is when things return to normal they will return to normal. Right now a hospital, any hospital is not where we want to be. Like I mentioned she is doing fine so her treatments can wait for now. Nothing to believe or disbelieve either way, it simply is what it is.

On the bright side I just did a drug store run and noticed well stocked toilet paper so grabbed some. Plenty of cold beer and hard cider which I actually went for too. So overall can't complain.

Ron

 

Hello,

The worldometer has also a corona page:
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

What I see is that about 1/3 of the cases is in the USA.
More info on each country can be found clicking the countries name.

Bertus

 

If IT personnel off themselves for that, I wonder what the suicide rate for small-business owners is.

Probably will be sky-high soon, on account of losing everything due to the Wuhan shutdown.

I simplified. There’s also the responsibility for 100s of millions of $, per month that a mistake can cost. Or even a simple mistake can cost several millions of $s and your job. In some cases, the risk is not money, but human lives. Imagine the programmer who sends a jumbo airliner into an urban area with a little transcription error.

 

They were being proactive and took the initiative.

Such a thoughtful and sensitive sentiment. Hopefully someone can return the favor when you lose people that are in your charge.

 

A guy I worked with for 30 years died last week of a heart attack. He had mild chest pains but was reluctant to seek medical care because of CV fear and restrictions on routine medical care. His kids finally ordered him to the emergency room but it was too late to save him.

https://www.meaningfulfunerals.net/obituary/ralph-baird?fh_id=11775

Here someone with tooth pain is denied access to emergency. Dentists are besically closed. Tooth infection can actually turn to meningitis or sepsis...

So going back to other "deaths"... If someone died of heart attack because they did not go to ER due to COVID restrictions/fears, how is that evaluated?

If a 45 year old dies of preventable heart attack in the goal of saving immunocompromised and elderly, what is the true cost of this?

 

I simplified. There’s also the responsibility for 100s of millions of $, per month that a mistake can cost. Or even a simple mistake can cost several millions of $s and your job. In some cases, the risk is not money, but human lives. Imagine the programmer who sends a jumbo airliner into an urban area with a little transcription error.

That's something that engineers have always dealt with. It's why the tradition of the Iron Ring of Failure was started.

 

Thanks for pointing that out.

Of course, I DID NOT mean to imply that NONE of the 'other' causes of death can be NOT related to covid nineteen. (the double negative is confusing.)

I MEANT to imply that SOME of the other causes of Death MAY BE related to COVID-19.

I find it mildly insulting that you suggested I really believe ALL other causes of death has ceased to exist just so COVID-19 could claim responsibility for ALL deaths now?

Of course I don’t believe that.

Well it sounds like you did. You'll get insulted once in a while that's what happens on the net sometimes. It could be a misunderstanding, but you chose not to give enough it time to peter out.

I guess post #2315 insulted you too. The way you talk sometimes makes your viewpoint sound a little in left field, that is, biased in a strong way. It's entirely up to you though what you choose to believe in the lack of hard facts.

 

Hello,

The worldometer has also a corona page:
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

What I see is that about 1/3 of the cases is in the USA.
More info on each country can be found clicking the countries name.

Bertus

It's virtually impossible to really compare countries because the testing is so vastly different from one to another. Does anyone really believe that India has fewer than 25,000 cases? It will be interesting to see the best estimates when all is said and done, but that is at least two years away.

 

Here is your chance to get COVID-19 and maybe save lives.
https://1daysooner.org/

https://thehill.com/policy/healthca...dea-to-speed-coronavirus-vaccine-gains-ground

Yikes, that sounds very dangerous.

 

Such a thoughtful and sensitive sentiment. Hopefully someone can return the favor when you lose people that are in your charge.

It's called dark humor, @WBahn -- which is my way of coping while I see the world falling apart around me.

People die -- for any number of reasons, and at any time. It's part of life.

My guess is: those two were a step out the door anyway, Wuhan or not.

Life is for the living.

 

https://spectator.org/flattening-the-curve-and-other-lies/

 

Hello again,

I have read and seen that the covid 19 thing is more contagious that's the main thing that makes it bad.
It seems true because it spread over the globe so fast.

Fauci says the covid 19 is 10 times more deadly than the seasonal flu. But then again i think his calculator broke down the other day just before he came up with that number

 

It's virtually impossible to really compare countries because the testing is so vastly different from one to another. Does anyone really believe that India has fewer than 25,000 cases? It will be interesting to see the best estimates when all is said and done, but that is at least two years away.

One thing that developing countries have in their favor is a young population. Hopefully that should limit the death rate to manageable numbers.
https://africanarguments.org/2020/0...l-why-lockdowns-might-not-be-africa-best-bet/

Source: CIA World Fact Book.
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/fields/341.html

 

One thing that developing countries have in their favor is a young population. Hopefully that should limit the death rate to manageable numbers.

We'll see. Young, unfortunately, does not always equate to healthy. Plus, the health care systems in many of those countries can't stand up to too much stress.

 

It's called dark humor, @WBahn -- which is my way of coping while I see the world falling apart around me.

IMO that failed the dark humor test.

 

We'll see. Young, unfortunately, does not always equate to healthy. Plus, the health care systems in many of those countries can't stand up to too much stress.

Sure, resistance to COVID-19 just means you will die from 100 other things like simple malnutrition in the third-world.