Do you care to disagree with any of the suggestions listed?

I read that a small percentage of people contracting COVID-19 have a runny nose. I'll post a reference if I come across it again.

EDIT: Add reference from WHO:

https://www.who.int/news-room/q-a-detail/q-a-coronaviruses

 

Isopropyl alcohol (IPA) is actually more active against ordinary bacteria than ethanol.

(Vegetative) bacteria, yes -- Virions, not so much...

With constructive intent
HP

 

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Yebut rumor has it that theropods yet roam the earth...

(Hint)

TTFN
HP

 

(vegetative) Bacteria yes -- virions not so much...

With constructive intent
HP

Of course. That is what I thought I said, and Table II of the article supports its extension to coronaviruses.* I equivocated about methanol effects on viruses because of the absence of data in that article.

*Much earlier in this lengthy thread, I pointed out that coronaviruses, including COVID-19, are enveloped viruses. They are more susceptible to alcohols than are non-enveloped viruses. That is particularly true for IPA. When assessing activity of alcohols, the presence of an envelop or lipid coating is quite important.

 

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Here's an article with similarly relevant information:

https://www.foxnews.com/health/coronavirus-live-plastic-stainless-steel-for-up-to-3-days

 

...methanol is inactive against most bacteria.

Perhaps. But it blinds them so they cannot seek you out.

 

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Translation:
"Tom Hanks confirms he's been infected with the coronavirus."

The note below says:
"Every time this man travels he has a bad experience, first he was marooned in a desert island, then he was attacked by pirates, his plane crashed, and he was once stranded in an airport."

 

Do you care to disagree with any of the suggestions listed?

I have no medical qualifications but fail to understand how the virus can survive in the human body, which has a core temperature of ~37C, if the virus is supposedly "killed by a temperature of just 26/27 degrees". ??

 

I have no medical qualifications but fail to understand how the virus can survive in the human body, which has a core temperature ~37C, if the virus is supposedly "killed by a temperature of just 26/27 degrees". ??

I was thinking along the same lines, but perhaps outside of extremely moist conditions the virus particle desicates at low temperatures?

 

I was thinking along the same lines, but perhaps outside of extremely moist conditions the virus particle desicates at low temperatures?

Once it enters a host, it hijacks the cells and temperature is no longer an issue. Outside the host, it is like dormant spores and only had so kuch lifespan. This is very crude, but all I can remember from years ago. Cannot find a good reference to point to at the moment.

But this is interesting and somewhat suspect, makes me think China knew about this for much longer: https://www.livescience.com/how-coronavirus-infects-cells.html

 

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This article discusses those claims in detail.
https://fullfact.org/online/coronavirus-claims-symptoms-viral/

 

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Tom Hanks and his Wife tested positive for COVID-19 in Australia. Lucky for them they weren't in the US. As of this morning, you can't get tested unless you require hospitalization; according to Dr. Natalie Azar who tried to get one of her patients tested. The patient wasn't ill enough to require hospitalization, but the doctor wanted her to be tested and was denied.

EDIT: For those who don't get news from NBC, Dr. Azar is an NBC medical contributor.

Her bio:
Dr. Azar is an assistant clinical professor of medicine and rheumatology at the NYU Langone Medical Center in Manhattan. She has been in private practice since 2001 and currently sees patients at both the Center for Musculoskeletal Care on 38th street and at the Joan H. Tisch Center for Women’s Health on east 84th Street in New York City.

 

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So far he's only working in China.

 

Just posted today:
Depending on the type of surface, the virus can stay on surfaces for a few hours or up to several days, according to the WHO. A recent study by scientists in the U.S. found that viable virus could be detected up to three hours later in the air, up to four hours on copper, up to 24 hours on cardboard and up to two to three days on plastic and stainless steel.

 

Why the CDC botched it's coronavirus test.

https://www.technologyreview.com/s/615323/why-the-cdc-botched-its-coronavirus-testing/

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/11/world/europe/coronavirus-merkel-germany.html

BERLIN — Chancellor Angela Merkel is on her way out and her power is waning, but in her typically low-key, no-nonsense manner, the German leader on Wednesday laid out some cold, hard facts on the coronavirus in a way that few other leaders have.

Two in three Germans may become infected, Ms. Merkel said at a news conference that reverberated far beyond her country. There is no immunity now against the virus and no vaccine yet. It spreads exponentially, and the world now faces a pandemic.

The most important thing, the chancellor said, is to slow down the spread of the coronavirus to win time for people to develop immunity, and to prevent the health care system from becoming overwhelmed.
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Ms. Merkel, for her part, spent time studying science before becoming a politician: She is a trained physicist.

“We must take all necessary measures,” Ms. Merkel. “That is true for the government and everyone in a position of political responsibility. But it is also true for all citizens, the 83 million people who live in our country. It is about protecting older people, those with previous illnesses and vulnerable groups.”

“This is putting our solidarity, our common sense and our openheartedness for one another to the test,” she said. “I hope that we will pass it.”

 

Why the CDC botched it's coronavirus test.

https://www.technologyreview.com/s/615323/why-the-cdc-botched-its-coronavirus-testing/

I'd like to know why we didn't adopt the WHO test when it was offered to the US? A test with proven results. I have my suspicions but the mods don't allow much of what I say, even stuff that is well proven.

 

I'd like to know why we didn't adopt the WHO test when it was offered to the US? A test with proven results.

Me too. This situation shouldn't be political. If we had asked for help, they would have given it to us. The lack of cooperation has cost US citizens their lives.

Why can't we do widespread testing like South Korea? We have far more resources than them, yet they're testing at a rate of 2,000 per million and we're testing at a rate closer to 25. It's not like we're some resource poor nation with non-existent medical infrastructure. We knew this was coming several months ago. Our leaders have let us down.

 

As of this morning, you can't get tested unless you require hospitalization; according to Dr. Natalie Azar who tried to get one of her patients tested. The patient wasn't ill enough to require hospitalization, but the doctor wanted her to be tested and was denied.

This addresses why commercial/private labs have difficulty getting the kits and authorization to do the testing: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/lab/testing-laboratories.html