There are comments comparing coronovirus and death rates from other causes. Let me propose a hypothetical. Would you go to work it the person sitting next to you in a meeting was ill and there was a good chance you would become infected. Then, your chance of death from this illness was greater than 2% because you were over 50 years old or greater than 20% you would get a major illness knocking you out for weeks and very possibly in a hospital? Cancer is not infectious. Heart disease is not infectious. Diabetes is not infectious. Suicide is not infectious. So, I ask again, would you go to work?

 

Penicillin and related antibiotics were produced by a consortium of American drug companies during and at the end of WWII. That agreement lasted well after the war. The test for anthrax early this century was produced by private enterprise. Before that, testing of all blood intended for transfusion for HIV was delayed, not facilitated, by Federal bureaucracy (FDA). The CDC is simply not designed to respond to emergencies, and neither is Congress.

I hope VP Pence will understand the difference between hope and experience.

 

There are comments comparing coronovirus and death rates from other causes. Let me propose a hypothetical. Would you go to work it the person sitting next to you in a meeting was ill and there was a good chance you would become infected. Then, your chance of death from this illness was greater than 2% because you were over 50 years old or greater than 20% you would get a major illness knocking you out for weeks and very possibly in a hospital? Cancer is not infectious. Heart disease is not infectious. Diabetes is not infectious. Suicide is not infectious. So, I ask again, would you go to work?

This is like when people say "when your number is up, your number is up". OK, fine but that also doesn't mean we should tempt fate. The problem was there were people who would come to work obviously sick with severe cold or flu like symptoms. I had no way of knowing what awaited me each day. I would decline any close proximity to them and no way in a meeting room, even a large meeting room.

Ron

 

https://www.facebook.com/seralillynz/photos/a.723206701039772/3351048748255541

That was likely all true 100 years ago, also. Roughly 100 million died worldwide. It’s no time to celebrate yet.

 

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/bond-movie-no-time-die-delayed-due-coronavirus-1282170


'No Time to Die'

 

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/bond-movie-no-time-die-delayed-due-coronavirus-1282170


'No Time to Die'

They should rename it to "No Time To Get Infected"

 

There were several different film crews in Italy that shut down.

 

My sister is currently in Polynesia and currently in Fiji which she is enjoying but she was looking forward to Tonga which is not going to happen and she figured that would play out that way. This virus is proving to be one hell of a disruption to travel and Tonga is a long way from Italy or China. Tonga which relies on tourism apparently does not want a boat full of foreigners visiting or the cruise line decided not to visit.

Ron

 

Latest update March 04, 2020, 21:20 EST.
California declares State of Emergency.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/04/world/coronavirus-news.html

 

Latest update March 04, 2020, 21:20 EST.
California declares State of Emergency.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/04/world/coronavirus-news.html

The problem with a cruise ship is a whole bunch of people in close quarters. While nobody wants to see a cruise ship denied entry into a port you don't want infected people coming in and spreading a virus or any illness. Damned if you do and damned if you don't.

Ron

 

The problem with a cruise ship is a whole bunch of people in close quarters. While nobody wants to see a cruise ship denied entry into a port you don't want infected people coming in and spreading a virus or any illness. Damned if you do and damned if you don't.

Ron

Which is why many plagues managed to transport from one location to another in the distant past. Most of the lessons learned are being used to stop it and yes, yes. Damned if you do and damned if you don’t. Well Said.

kv

 

Which is why many plagues managed to transport from one location to another in the distant past. Most of the lessons learned are being used to stop it and yes, yes. Damned if you do and damned if you don’t. Well Said.

kv

When I was a kid growing up Brooklyn NY my mother and aunts would frequently take me for walks along the waterfront. There was Lower Manhattan easily seen then I would see this small like brush covered over grown island not far from Liberty Island. Inquisitive kid I always asked what that island was and was always told it's where the immigrants came in. Never made much sense to me at the time. Ellis Island is a federally owned island in New York Harbor that contains a museum and former immigration inspection station. As the United States' busiest immigrant inspection station from 1892 to 1954, it processed approximately 12 million immigrants to the country through the Port of New York and New Jersey. Following its closing the place just went into disarray until the National Park System took it over and began the restoration. Today it is a really cool place to visit and get lost in reading the history. Not everyone who made it to Ellis Island made it to the mainland port of NYC. People came in with disease, many countries in Europe put anyone on those boats to America including sick with communicable illness. Today the park service has done a magnificent job or restoration including the medical facility and the morgue. There were laws and rules for emigration.

Ron

 

My great-grandfather had his first job out of medical school at the US quarantine station on Blackbeard Island on the coast of GA. It was destroyed during the hurricane of 1896. At that time all ships were stopped before making port and gassed with sulfur fumes which readily combined with humid air to make sulphuric acid. All personnel were removed to do so and had to pass the doctor's inspection to be allowed to go to port. Else you stayed there until the ship picked you up after leaving port on the headland and headed offshore if the doctor would release you.

 

A little humor relief:

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The problem with a cruise ship is a whole bunch of people in close quarters. While nobody wants to see a cruise ship denied entry into a port you don't want infected people coming in and spreading a virus or any illness. Damned if you do and damned if you don't.

Ron

Eventually you run out of Champagne and need to go to Port.

 

Eventually you run out of Champagne and need to go to Port.

and when you run out of Port, you go to Starboard.

 

Eventually you run out of Champagne and need to go to Port.

Actually it's like Uber Eats, they deliver it. You do get tired of it and lobster though.

Ron

 

The CDC doesn't update their website often enough to be current, but here's the link:

How 'bout this?

 

How 'bout this?

That link shows me 2 deaths in the US with 1 in CA and 1 in Washington when there have been a total of 11 US deaths and 10 of them were in Washington with the majority of those in a nursing home where I figure the immune level is not very high among residents.

Ron

 

10 of them were in Washington with the majority of those in a nursing home where I figure the immune level is not very high among residents.

The number I read for people 80 or older was about 15%.

I read that the highest mortality rate is for age 60+ males who smoke.