https://www.freepressjournal.in/ana...mic-and-the-possibility-of-mass-extermination

All of this bickering about vaccines is conveniently distracting from actual real problems contributing to all of this. Problems of mass migrations and displacement, destoyed farmlands, polluted water and on and on.

 

https://www.freepressjournal.in/ana...mic-and-the-possibility-of-mass-extermination

All of this bickering about vaccines is conveniently distracting from actual real problems contributing to all of this. Problems of mass migrations and displacement, destoyed farmlands, polluted water and on and on.

You mean this? xn+1 = rxn(1 - xn)

kv

 

You mean by all sides like what is posted on Facebook, or one of the many Q groups?

I said that because I hear every thing you have said almost word for word every Sunday. From my middle sons mouth. He is so far into both the Facebook and Q conspiracy BS it ruins the one day I get to spend with my wife. No matter what or where I get proof of him being shown to be wrong, he's not, just talks louder and faster to prove he's right.

 

https://www.freepressjournal.in/ana...mic-and-the-possibility-of-mass-extermination

All of this bickering about vaccines is conveniently distracting from actual real problems contributing to all of this. Problems of mass migrations and displacement, destoyed farmlands, polluted water and on and on.

I totally agree with your written comment in general,
but probably not in the context that You intended.
The page You linked to is nothing more than "Fear-Mongering" BS.
India has the lowest deaths from Covid, in the World,
Israel has the highest Vaccination-percentage, and the highest Covid death-rate.

If You want accurate information You need to go to "BitChute",
where "only" around ~half of the Channels are run by idiots,

and around ~1/4 of the Channels are run by people who
are trying real hard, but haven't quite figured-out the "big-picture",

and around ~1/4 of the Channels have it "mostly accurate",

and a small handful of Channels are extremely accurate, on-time, and to the point.

"Brighteon.tv" is also an excellent, mostly Video website.

If anyone is interested in what they're missing,
I'll provide an extensive list of proven reliable sites/channels.
I may do it anyway, just for the lurkers who tend to stay quiet.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BitChute

BitChute is a video hosting service launched by Ray Vahey in January 2017.[1] It is known for accommodating far-right individuals and conspiracy theorists, and for hosting hate speech.[a]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BitChute#cite_note-hateful-material-16 Some creators who use BitChute have been banned from YouTube; some others crosspost content to both platforms or post more extreme content only to BitChute.

https://www.jpost.com/diaspora/anti...line-network-of-far-right-antisemitism-631491

A new report published on Sunday by the British Jewish group Community Security Trust (CST) explores the "shocking extent of terror incitement and anti-Jewish hate created and circulated by right-wing extremists on social media."

The report, titled "Hate Fuel: the hidden online world fuelling far right terror," focused on four relatively unregulated social media platforms: BitChute, Gab, 4chan and Telegram.

https://cst.org.uk/news/blog/2021/01/28/bitchute-a-very-british-problem

Today’s edition of The Times contains a report about the huge amount of antisemitic content on the alternative video sharing site, BitChute, following original research by CST. Through some simple searches for neutral, Holocaust-related terms, we found easily accessible and large quantities of video content that either denies, distorts, inverts, or glorifies the Holocaust. CST has repeatedly raised our concerns both publicly and privately about BitChute, which effectively operates as a YouTube equivalent for neo-Nazis, conspiracy cranks, would-be terrorists and other extremists, a problem we first highlighted in our report published last year, Hate Fuel.

This looks exactly like a place I would look for accurate and scientific Covid facts.

 

"" No matter what or where I get proof of him being shown to be wrong, ""
Your use of the word "Proof" is highly subjective.
There is no "Proof" of anything without the proper application of
"Scientific-Methodology",
and only when YOU personally can repeat the results to your own satisfaction.

Even then, You have no idea of whether or not there may be other factors
that should be entered into the equation.

For instance, ask any College Professor who teaches "Statistical-Analysis"
how easy it is to skew the "apparent" numbers to
make any point that you'd care to make.

You need to be EXTREMELY skeptical of
ALL SOURCES OF INFORMATION, ALL THE TIME.

I know exactly how your son feels.
My Dad was probably similar to You in some ways,
he had many fixed ideas,
and would absolutely refuse to discuss them,
and get extremely angry any time certain subjects were brought up.
Too bad, he was a very well educated guy.
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Covid-19 has been littered with conspiracy theories.

Most conspiracy theories starts the same way - "The experts have been lying to you..." - It then presents an argument from ignorance, and then begs the question.

Does anyone remember when covid-19 was out and there was no vaccine yet, but the antivax community was already criticising the covid-19 vaccine? There was a number of times that I had to ask "what vaccine?" when they were dribbling their nonsense.

The big thing for a while was 5G, and when you pointed out that a lot of the countries that have an outbreak didn't have 5G you got an immediate response that there must be some secret testing.

Bitchute? Lol, no thanks.

 

Covid-19 has been littered with conspiracy theories.

Most conspiracy theories starts the same way - "The experts have been lying to you..." - It then presents an argument from ignorance, and then begs the question.

Does anyone remember when covid-19 was out and there was no vaccine yet, but the antivax community was already criticising the covid-19 vaccine? There was a number of times that I had to ask "what vaccine?" when they were dribbling their nonsense.

The big thing for a while was 5G, and when you pointed out that a lot of the countries that have an outbreak didn't have 5G you got an immediate response that there must be some secret testing.

Bitchute? Lol, no thanks.

Look at my Sig lol

kv

 

The article I linked does not mention COVID at all actually. The e paper is Indian so I am not sure how you can have such an informed opinion that it is garbage.

It is incredibly difficult to find good data and numbers on COVID, real time or even from a year ago. If you have accessto university supscription databases, you are slightly better off.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BitChute


https://www.jpost.com/diaspora/anti...line-network-of-far-right-antisemitism-631491


https://cst.org.uk/news/blog/2021/01/28/bitchute-a-very-british-problem


This looks exactly like a place I would look for accurate and scientific Covid facts.

Do You really believe everything You read on Wikipedia ????
That explains a lot of your viewpoints.
This means that you should NEVER even consider going to BitChute.

"Right-Wing-Extremists" do exist, in very small numbers,
and I wouldn't give them the time-of-day,
just the same as for "Progressive-Extremists" or
anything to do with "Woke" Culture, or "Cancel-Culture",
they're all fools, sometimes even dangerous fools.

I'm neither "Right", nor "Left",
I don't have, and don't want any affiliation with either "group",
"group-think" is dangerous and ignorant, and can be found almost everywhere.

The only "group" I might consider associating with is being a Patriot,
and Patriots number well over ~100 to 1 over the fringe idiots from either "side".

And I am on BitChute virtually every day, along with millions of other people
who are true Patriots, (even though I don't always agree with them).

So much for the accuracy of Wikipedia.
Fully half of it is nothing but anonymous Propaganda.
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Never been to Bitchute before. I just found out that meat is magnetic. I am going to be a vegetarian now (after dinner). Thank you!

 

"" "Believe Nothing You Hear, and Only One Half That You See" Edgar Allan Poe ""

Excellent quote !!!!
I've been telling this to everyone for ~45-years.

Many people are deathly afraid of being "labeled" with some derogatory term.
The phrase "Conspiracy-Theorist" was first used by the Clowns-In-America to
control public opinion back around WW-II.
It generally works pretty well, that's why it is still in use.

I'm a Conspiracy-Researcher, and have been for ~45-years.
Absolutely ZERO of my conclusions have been found to be incorrect so far,
but many of them do continue to get deeper and better understood,
and there are still a bunch of unanswered questions which remain only probabilities.
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"" "Believe Nothing You Hear, and Only One Half That You See" Edgar Allan Poe ""

Excellent quote !!!!
I've been telling this to everyone for ~45-years.

Many people are deathly afraid of being "labeled" with some derogatory term.
The phrase "Conspiracy-Theorist" was first used by the Clowns-In-America to
control public opinion back around WW-II.
It generally works pretty well, that's why it is still in use.

I'm a Conspiracy-Researcher, and have been for ~45-years.
Absolutely ZERO of my conclusions have been found to be incorrect so far,
but many of them do continue to get deeper and better understood,
and there are still a bunch of unanswered questions which remain only probabilities.
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To follow your own acumen is hasty, fools rush in, all to many times to wait and see can be a pitfall. But if you want to ascribe to crowd intelligence it also has some fatal flaws. But, informed decisions lead you to the correct decision. I don’t wait to long but rather test my sources, if I take my 80/20 principle. The am I following the 80% of people who blindly follow or am I in the 20% that have more knowledge, but do they have an ounce of common sense. Some do some don’t.

But, it really is a personal choice, with that, choose wisely.

kv

 

To follow your own acumen is hasty, fools rush in, all to many times to wait and see can be a pitfall. But if you want to ascribe to crowd intelligence it also has some fatal flaws. But, informed decisions lead you to the correct decision. I don’t wait to long but rather test my sources, if I take my 80/20 principle. The am I following the 80% of people who blindly follow or am I in the 20% that have more knowledge, but do they have an ounce of common sense. Some do some don’t.

But, it really is a personal choice, with that, choose wisely.

kv

I usually see what the score is.
http://www.physics.smu.edu/scalise/www/misc/crackpot/crindex.html

 

and only when YOU personally can repeat the results to your own satisfaction.

So you don't believe in countries that you have never visited?

You don't believe in Einstein's theory of relatively (because you haven't done the experiments yourself)

You don't believe in quantum mechanics?

Do you believe in volcanoes?

 

Never been to Bitchute before. I just found out that meat is magnetic. I am going to be a vegetarian now (after dinner). Thank you!

Pure gold

 

No matter what or where I get proof of him being shown to be wrong, he's not, just talks louder and faster to prove he's right.

It's called Cognitive Dissonance, my friend. And it's painful to watch when it happens to the people you love or are close to. It's happening to one of my best friends, who is also an extremely smart guy. In fact, it seems that the smarter the person is, the more said person will stick to their guns. No matter how much direct, real and tangible proof they are presented with.

First, he thought that CV19 was a conspiracy made by the mainstream media. Just to sell fear. Then he affirmed that CV19 was an artificially created virus made by the Chinese government to attack western interests. It didn't matter that I showed him peer-reviewed papers affirming that the virus' DNA did not contain detectable artificial splices in it. Nor that I pointed out that it affected China as much as the rest of the world, both health-wise and its economy.

He said that governments were making up the crisis and the numbers. And I told him that every single government in the planet was putting travel and economic restrictions in place to try to contain it, and reporting catastrophic numbers, and that I found it hard to believe that every one of them had conspired to screw the population of the entire planet at the same time. Especially since even countries with political affinities seldom made joint declarations concerning more mundane issues like human rights or trade agreements.

Then he mentioned the case of Sweden, in which virtually no restrictions were placed at first. Saying that its government was a brave one by not willing to curtail its people's freedoms and rights ... and when I mentioned that Sweden's initial approach had horrible results (admitted by its own government) he changed the subject and kept the attack but this time from a different angle.

I told him that at first, we were warned by the governments (nobody trusts one's own government, I'll grant him that). And he rejected it. Then we were being informed by our own nation's health and sanitary institutions... again, part of the government, and therefore not to be taken seriously. Then came the direct anecdotes from people we know first hand.... and he cast them aside as being "exceptions" ... then the numbers were being reported by the hospitals themselves and not by a government institution. And he said that the hospitals and big pharma had special interests when reporting said numbers. Now the information can easily be obtained from the most direct of sources: the doctors and the nurses that tend the saturated ICU's and specially built wings and tents... And that was it.. I told him that that was the very end and bottom of the rabbit hole, and that it was impossible to obtain reliable information from a more direct source (hell, he even has a couple of relatives that he says he trusts that are doctors and waves away their recommendations as if they were simpletons that didn't know what they are talking about) ... and he still will not accept the reality presented to him.

He uses expressions like that he's been "resisting" all the pressure from his family to get vaccinated. And that he's never going to "yield" to any "attacks" from either his friends, or even his own doctors, who have been "pushing" the vaccine on him.... It says a lot, when a person thinks that he's supposed to entrench himself in order to defend his "rights" and his "personal choices and freedoms" when the urgency of getting vaccinated is presented to them. Cost and consequences be damned.

In the end, my personal opinion is that he's being reactive in his choice. That is, since practically all people from the political group "A" (which he despises) have been vaccinated, he's going to do the exact opposite because he belongs to group "B". He has flatly rejected all facts, figures and easily verifiable truth presented to him. And when cornered, his response is the same as that of most anti-vaxxers abounding in social media: sow doubt ... sow doubt, and attack the character of the doctors and the scientists presenting the facts instead of directly confronting said facts ...

So, IMHO, in the end it's not about reason when dealing with people like that. It's about understanding that, in their minds, they have already "chosen a side" and are never going to abandon it because they've already given it their unwavering loyalty... And that's called tribalism.

 

I would like to make a prediction ............

Heads will explode before the end of this year.

It would appear that there's not much I can personally do about it,
but I'll keep trying, because I would hope that someone would give
me that same consideration if the rolls were reversed.
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An attempt at cost benefit for some...
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.30.21262866v1

 

I would like to make a prediction ............

Heads will explode before the end of this year.

It would appear that there's not much I can personally do about it,
but I'll keep trying, because I would hope that someone would give
me that same consideration if the rolls were reversed.
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Good grief.