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nsaspook

Joined Aug 27, 2009
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This is just paranoia of some sort of global conspiracy to fool the public about vaccines
So it's a Global Conspiracy that politicians lie ?
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People lie, politicians are people, politicians lie. The makers of misinformation are people, they are lying. Some people are unwittingly spreading those lies.
 

DickCappels

Joined Aug 21, 2008
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And you join the ranks of the uninformed spreading misinformation with this post.


Please read this and become informed.

https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/fda-approves-first-covid-19-vaccine
Please show me where Comirnaty is available in the United States. From what I can tell, it is currently only available in Europe (The EU), leaving the U.S. without an FDA approved "vaccine". Choices inside the U.S. being identical to Comirnaty does not mean that the identical drug is approved. This means that the patients have the same financial risk as with any other "vaccine" only approved for emergency (experimental) use.
 
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nsaspook

Joined Aug 27, 2009
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Please show me where Comirnaty is available in the United States. From what I can tell, it is currently only available in Europe (The EU).
You do realize that Comirnaty is just the brandname of the already existing vaccine. :rolleyes:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...-approved-pfizer-biontech-vaccine/8245932002/
The Brand Institute began working on names for the vaccine in April 2020, when its German office contacted BioNTech, which is based there. (BioNTech is pronounced Bye-ON-tech, not Bye-oh-N-tech.)
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Comirnaty was announced in December when the European Commission issued conditional marketing authorization for the vaccine, but the FDA doesn't allow the use of trade names for drugs until they're fully approved.

More COVID-19 vaccines are in the regulatory pipeline, so more tongue-twister names are coming.

The brand name of the Moderna vaccine is slated to beSpikevax, according to Piergrossi. The AstraZeneca vaccine's is Vaxzervia.

"There is a certain whimsical nature to pharmaceutical names," Piergrossi said.
 

panic mode

Joined Oct 10, 2011
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Can't you see it's totally a strawman agreement designed to mislead you? Even if what you said was true (it's not) it changes absolutely nothing about the efficacy and safety of the current vaccines after many a billion doses have been administered.
you go to a car dealer and there are two exactly looking cars, both claim to have same specs but only one was put through tests and approved as road worthy. which one should i choose? why are you insisting that they are equal?

btw, there is no many billions of Pfizer shots administered. that may be combined number of all shots but not 1 (a single one!) was approved.
 

nsaspook

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you go to a car dealer and there are two exactly looking cars, both claim to have same specs but only one was put through tests and approved as road worthy. which one should i choose? why are you insisting that they are equal?

btw, there is no many billions of Pfizer shots administered. that may be combined number of all shots but not 1 (a single one!) was approved.
Are you claiming adding the year old brand-name Comirnaty after FDA approval makes the vaccine different if it now had a label on it with that name?
 

panic mode

Joined Oct 10, 2011
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absolutely. that is exactly what i claim. if it was 100% the same, they would not want to change the name and approval would cover both version, not only one.

btw. that is exactly what field inspector tells me when there is a product version with or without UL label. the products may look the same, have same model etc but only one with UL will get you past inspection.

same is with identical twins where only one has studied for exam or has drivers license. because there ARE different.

you may say "meh, close enough" but they are not the same in the court of law and they are not the same to me and they are not the same to FDA.

btw, i am quite certain that FDA had much better opportunity to evaluate and compare the two than i do. yet they still opted to specifically approve just one.... one that is not yet on the market
 
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LowQCab

Joined Nov 6, 2012
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People lie, politicians are people, politicians lie. The makers of misinformation are people, they are lying. Some people are unwittingly spreading those lies.
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I agree 100%.
Now it comes down to figuring out WHO is lying,
what is their motivation for lying ?
Who stands to make Trillions of Dollars if they can
convince enough people that their lie is actually the truth ?
Who gains control over billions of people by way of constantly instilling FEAR in them ?
People who are in FEAR are easy to control and make bad decisions.
Why would some one be imprisoned for presenting an alternative solution ?
Why am I not dead yet ? ( never worn a mask, zero shots ),
I don't even catch Colds, and I'm 64 years old, it's not magic,
and it has nothing to do with luck or "statistics".
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nsaspook

Joined Aug 27, 2009
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absolutely. that is exactly what i claim. if it was 100% the same, they would not want to change the name and approval would cover both version, not only one.

btw. that is exactly what field inspector tells me when there is a product version with or without UL label. the products may look the same, have same model etc but only one with UL will get you past inspection.

same is with identical twins where only one has studied for exam or has drivers license. because there ARE different.
They didn't change the name, they just couldn't use it under the EUA in the USA. That's why it's called Comirnaty in the EU, they didn't have the same brand-name regulation as the US.

https://www.prnewswire.co.uk/news-r...e-developed-by-brand-institute-872612226.html
Introducing COMIRNATY®, the EU Brand Name for Pfizer & BioNTech's COVID-19 Vaccine, Developed by Brand Institute

NEWS PROVIDED BY
Brand Institute, Inc.
28 Dec, 2020, 15:00 GMT
https://www.prnewswire.co.uk/news-r...rand-name-approved-in-the-u-s--874774781.html

FDA Approves COMIRNATY®, The First COVID-19 Vaccine Approved By The Agency And The First COVID-19 Vaccine Brand Name Approved In The U.S.
MIAMI, Aug. 25, 2021 /PRNewswire/ -- Brand Institute is proud to announce its role in naming Pfizer and BioNTech's FDA-approved COVID-19 vaccine: COMIRNATY® (koe mir' na tee). The name was first announced by Swiss regulatory authority, Swissmedic, in December of 2020, and by the European Medicines Agency (EMA) soon after. The brand name has also been approved by regulators in Japan and Australia, among other countries.

In a joint press release issued on December 21, 2020, following the EMA's authorization of the vaccine, BioNTech and Pfizer commented, "The vaccine will be marketed in the EU under the brand name COMIRNATY®, which represents a combination of the terms COVID-19, mRNA, community and immunity, to highlight the first authorization of a messenger RNA (mRNA) vaccine, as well as the joint global efforts that made this achievement possible with unprecedented rigor and efficiency, and with safety at the forefront, during this global pandemic."
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nsaspook

Joined Aug 27, 2009
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I agree 100%.
Now it comes down to figuring out WHO is lying,
what is their motivation for lying ?
Who stands to make Trillions of Dollars if they can
convince enough people that their lie is actually the truth ?
Who gains control over billions of people by way of constantly instilling FEAR in them ?
People who are in FEAR are easy to control and make bad decisions.
Why would some one be imprisoned for presenting an alternative solution ?
Why am I not dead yet ? ( never worn a mask, zero shots ),
I don't even catch Colds, and I'm 64 years old, it's not magic,
and it has nothing to do with luck or "statistics".
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Good for you, let's hope you are never in a position like this.
 

LowQCab

Joined Nov 6, 2012
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Good for you, let's hope you are never in a position like this.
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You couldn't pay me enough to subject myself to the Brain-Damage that CNN causes.
CNN's viewership is down to less than ~20% of what it was only ~10 years ago,
there are many, very good reasons why.

As for being in "that position", that is absolutely not possible for me.
Ever wonder what they would have died from if nobody knew about "Covid" ?
Thousands of people die every day,
she's probably been heading in that direction for the last ~5 or ~10 years.
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nsaspook

Joined Aug 27, 2009
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not sure i understand. why bother with EUA if it has FDA approval?
This is me being nice. Yes, you don't understand, I should have spelled it out instead of assuming you understood the term.

The Emergency Use Authorization came first so we could start giving shots to people and saving lives during the long and exacting formal FDA approval process.

This entire vaccine hesitancy saga is so sad. So many good people are dying because of BS misinformation.

Get the shot please.
 

LowQCab

Joined Nov 6, 2012
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Good for you, let's hope you are never in a position like this.
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It's glaringly obvious that You completely overlooked my obvious observations.
Would You please address them ?

This entire vaccine hesitancy saga is so sad. So many good people are dying because of BS misinformation.
Again, I agree 100% ........
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LowQCab

Joined Nov 6, 2012
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No, it's a waste of time as neither of us will change our positions. My comments in the thread are mainly directed to those on the vaccine hesitancy fence. I'm not and you are not.
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I am specifically making statements that put the entire subject into question,
and that You can not rationally answer.

Big-Pharma makes Trillions,
Governments get complete control over the populous instead of "serving" them.
The old Main-Stream-Media gets headlines to prevent
them from immediately going out of business.
This makes a great cover-story for why the Dollar is completely collapsing and
inflation is getting absolutely ridiculous,
and Banks are dropping like Flies.

Israel has an almost 100% Vaccination-Rate,
and also has the highest DEATH-Rate of any country on Earth, explain that one.

Now, what do the "Anti-Vaxers" have to gain ????

Vilification in the Media,
loss of Jobs,
in some countries, incarceration for even SPEAKING negatively about the Plandemic,
loss of family relationships,
loss of Social-Media Channels/Accounts,
loss of Banking-Accounts,
loss of Businesses or complete shut-downs because of draconian "mandates", etc.

So, basically You are intimating that the "Anti-Vaxers" are
just plain STUPID, and self-destructive,
without ever questioning why they would do such a thing
when there is absolutely ZERO benefit.

Don't live in FEAR, investigate for yourself, without relying on any "Authority".

But oh, wait a minute,
what would happen if You found out that You have been lied to ??????????????
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djsfantasi

Joined Apr 11, 2010
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Please show me where Comirnaty is available in the United States. From what I can tell, it is currently only available in Europe (The EU), leaving the U.S. without an FDA approved "vaccine". Choices inside the U.S. being identical to Comirnaty does not mean that the identical drug is approved. This means that the patients have the same financial risk as with any other "vaccine" only approved for emergency (experimental) use.
Just curious Why would the FDA APPROVE for use (in the US) a vaccine that was NOT available in the US, unless it WAS available in the US ???

I’m not admitting that you’re right, just that what you say fails the smell test…
 
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