the most disturbing part (for me at least) is that news is completely weaponized to push for certain agenda, instead of looking at the facts and stating what the findings are.

Damn media, they also won't report all the findings about the other Covid treatments that Russian Bot accounts on facebooks are spreading.

 

Of people are poisoning themselves with ivermectin, it is likely because they cannot do basic math to properly figure out a dose requirement. No child left behind...

Next time someone asks why I need to know fractions or even proportions, here is your example...

+1 insightful

 

I'm going back under my rock! Like most folks, I thought it was easing off and relaxed a bit. Now with it worse than it was at this time last year I'm back into seclusion. I was so looking forward to my Aunt's (last surviving family member of her generation) 100th Birthday party in Melbourne FL last week. Well that went bust! We've been putting off going to see her and after calling her on her birthday it is now too late as she has slipped into dementia and doesn't know who anyone is and talking to people who aren't there much less even still living.

 

I'm going back under my rock! Like most folks, I thought it was easing off and relaxed a bit. Now with it worse than it was at this time last year I'm back into seclusion. I was so looking forward to my Aunt's (last surviving family member of her generation) 100th Birthday party in Melbourne FL last week. Well that went bust! We've been putting off going to see her and after calling her on her birthday it is now too late as she has slipped into dementia and doesn't know who anyone is and talking to people who aren't there much less even still living.

Take care. There is some good news this time around with even Florida seeing cases declining. Most of the sickness and death is totally preventable with simple precautions and vaccination.

https://www.floridatoday.com/story/news/2021/09/07/gda-covid-19-state-2021-09-06-fl-pbre/118603016/

Florida reported far fewer coronavirus cases in the week ending Sept. 5, adding 129,202 new cases. That's down 14.9% from the previous week's tally of 151,760 new cases of the virus that causes COVID-19.

Florida ranked seventh among the states where coronavirus was spreading the fastest on a per-person basis, a USA TODAY Network analysis of Johns Hopkins University data shows.

In the latest week coronavirus cases in the United States increased 5.2% from the week before, with 1,146,098 cases reported.

With 6.45% of the country's population, Florida had 11.27% of the country's cases in the last week. Across the country, 44 states had more cases in the latest week than they did in the week before.

Brevard County reported 3,685 cases in the latest week. A week earlier, it had reported 4,510 cases. Throughout the pandemic it has reported 73,263 cases.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/08/health/us-coronavirus-wednesday/index.html

In Miami-Dade County Public Schools, 13 school employees have died from Covid-19 since August 16, the school district and local teacher union told CNN. All 13 -- three teachers, one security monitor, one cafeteria worker and seven school bus drivers -- were unvaccinated, they said.

 

Well our youngest daughter in the Republic of Georgia has it now since she was waiting for vaccine to become available and was infected but is apparently doing OK with it. However, our oldest daughter's (in Pittsburg who is also unvaxed) mother in law has it after visiting P'burg and upon returning to her home in SC today found her vaxed husband dead from it after his being released from the hospital a couple of days ago for it. Not going so good and in fact looking pretty damn bad...

 

And a good shot of Clorox, dose of Ivermectin, and a cocktail of methanol, yeah, that's the ticket! Far, Far too much misinformation abounding on the subject.

 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrea...-conducted-the-vaccine-study/?sh=3fea4c7c7bd1

Joe Rogan’s public misrepresentation of a 2015 vaccine study has gone viral. His misunderstanding of the study leads Rogan to wrongly conclude that vaccinating people against COVID-19 will increase the chances of some hyper-virulent mutation. You can watch the video below. But before you do, the lead scientist and author of the study who spent 10 years conducting this research has something to say. Because he’s horrified.

“Joe Rogan is getting this completely wrong,” says Andrew Read, professor of biology and entomology at Pennsylvania State. “He's taking very careful work about evolutionary scenarios of the future, and from that, erroneously concluding that people should not be vaccinated now.”

More transmission increases the likelihood of mutation. Thankfully, COVID-19 Vaccines reduce transmission and reduce opportunity for mutation.

“Think about what's happening with evolution,” offers Read. “Mutations can occur anytime the [virus] replicates. So the more replication, the more variants are generated. At the moment, the vast majority of the replication is happening in unvaccinated people. You can tell that because the majority of cases in the hospital are unvaccinated individuals. That is where the evolutionary action is happening at the moment.”

Why the hell would anyone listen to Joe Rogan? Stick to bigfoot and UFOs.

Read’s very concerned that misrepresentation of his research is causing vaccine hesitancy.


“The study was tweeted a thousand times last night, according to our metrics,” says Read. “I had a physician in England reach out to me on Friday asking me to [clarify] because his patients are using my paper to argue against vaccination.” Calling into question the effectiveness of vaccines was never the intention of his 2015 study. “I am genuinely shocked. I've been doing work for 20 years now on how vaccines might drive the evolution of viruses. There's nothing in any of that 20 years work that argues in favor of withholding lifesaving vaccines. It's just shocking to me.” He adds, “There are 600,000 Americans dead so far. The vast majority of those deaths are vaccine-preventable. There's not a single scenario that would argue in favor of not using [vaccines] to save the next hundred thousand. Not one scenario.”

 

Well our youngest daughter in the Republic of Georgia has it now since she was waiting for vaccine to become available and was infected but is apparently doing OK with it. However, our oldest daughter's (in Pittsburg who is also unvaxed) mother in law has it after visiting P'burg and upon returning to her home in SC today found her vaxed husband dead from it after his being released from the hospital a couple of days ago for it. Not going so good and in fact looking pretty damn bad...

Oh my! Very sorry to hear that. How old was your daughter's father in law? Was he in good health?

 

Why the hell would anyone listen to Joe Rogan?

Listen to Joe Rogan? I did listen to his podcast before he went to Spotify, not so much to hear his thoughts, but those of the people he interviewed. He manages to get some very interesting (and some not very interesting) people on his show. I like(d) the format; an episode can be 3 hours long or more and lets the people speak their mind completely. You really get to hear everything a person has to say, not just some excerpted sound bites or a prepared speech going over high points meant to fit into a 10 minute interview. The man himself, while more intelligent than I would expect for someone with a long history of head trauma, is just a talk show host and shouldn't be regarded as a source of information.

 

Oh my! Very sorry to hear that. How old was your daughter's father in law? Was he in good health?

~70 Healthy and very active including kayaking. He had been vaxed and came down with a bad cough that turned out to be Covid. Spent a few days in the hospital and had been released so went home. Wife was visiting her children and parents in P'burg and didn't hear from him so went home to South Carolina to check on him and found him dead. Sharon is also vaxed but also has Covid and apparently exposed all the families in P'burg to it now. Quite a mess...

 

Listen to Joe Rogan? I did listen to his podcast before he went to Spotify, not so much to hear his thoughts, but those of the people he interviewed. He manages to get some very interesting (and some not very interesting) people on his show. I like(d) the format; an episode can be 3 hours long or more and lets the people speak their mind completely. You really get to hear everything a person has to say, not just some excerpted sound bites or a prepared speech going over high points meant to fit into a 10 minute interview. The man himself, while more intelligent than I would expect for someone with a long history of head trauma, is just a talk show host and shouldn't be regarded as a source of information.

He should be regarded as a source of misinformation about anything he say's about the current pandemic. It's unlikely he actully did the research to find that nugget of misinformation. Someone gave him the comicbook version of the paper with the line to say high-lighted. On the burning issues of Bigfoot and UFOs I'm sure he's a credible source.

https://www.technologyreview.com/2021/09/08/1035139/covid-ivermectin-misinformation-rosacea/

What happens when your prescription drug becomes the center of covid misinformation

By the time Joe Rogan mentioned ivermectin as one ingredient in an experimental cocktail he was taking to treat his covid infection, the drug was a meme. In the days and weeks leading up to the hugely popular podcaster’s revelation, the drug had already become a flashpoint in the covid culture wars. Ivermectin isn’t some new or experimental drug: in addition to its use as an anti-parasite treatment for livestock, it’s commonly employed in humans to treat a form of rosacea, among other things. So for those of us who have been using it for years, its sudden infamy was unexpected and unwelcome.

 

He should be regarded as a source of misinformation about anything he say's about the current pandemic. It's unlikely he actully did the research to find that nugget of misinformation. Someone gave him the comicbook version of the paper with the line to say high-lighted. On the burning issues of Bigfoot and UFOs I'm sure he's a credible source.

https://www.technologyreview.com/2021/09/08/1035139/covid-ivermectin-misinformation-rosacea/

What happens when your prescription drug becomes the center of covid misinformation

The post makes It sound like Ivermectin is used to treat Paracites AND Rosecia. Sorry folks, A red nose is either Frostbite, Alcohol Flush or Rosecia (if the standard treatments don't work, you likely have Skin mites on your cheeks and nose).

...anti-parasitic agent targeting Demodex mites which may be colonizing the pilosebaceous units of patients with the disease.​

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Ivermectin is used for insect, arachnid or worm parasites - not viruses. But be my guest if you want to try. As I said before, the big pills from the Farm & Feed store are peanut butter flavored.

 

The post makes It sound like Ivermectin is used to treat Paracites AND Rosecia. Sorry folks, A red nose is either Frostbite, Alcohol Flush or Rosecia (if the standard treatments don't work, you likely have Skin mites on your cheeks and nose).

...anti-parasitic agent targeting Demodex mites which may be colonizing the pilosebaceous units of patients with the disease.​

​

Ivermectin is used for insect, arachnid or worm parasites - not viruses. But be my guest if you want to try. As I said before, the big pills from the Farm & Feed store are peanut butter flavored.

Give this man a lollipop.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4807898/
New developments in the treatment of rosacea – role of once-daily ivermectin cream

 

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.09.01.21262540v1

Analysis of the Dynamics, Outcome, and Prerequisites of the first German SARS-CoV-2 Superspreading Event

Findings We analyzed infection rates among all 411 participants, and the risk of infection in relation to various factors including age, alcohol consumption, and ventilation system. Overall, 46% (n=186/404) of the participants had been infected. We demonstrate that the spatial distribution of infected participants was associated with proximity to the ventilation system (represented as inverse distance, with Odds Ratio OR 1.39, 95% KI [0.86; 2.25]). Interestingly, the risk of infection was highly associated with age, whereby children (OR: 0.33 [0.267; 0.414]) and young adults (age 18-25) had a lower risk of infection than older participants resulting in an average infection risk increase of 28% per 10 years age difference. Behavioral differences also impacted the risk of infection including time spent outside (OR: 0.55 [0.33; 0.91]) or smoking (OR: 0.32 [0.124; 0.81]).
Interpretation Our findings underline the importance of proper indoor ventilation for events in the future. The lower susceptibility for children and young adults indicates their limited involvement in superspreading events.

 

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.09.01.21262540v1

Analysis of the Dynamics, Outcome, and Prerequisites of the first German SARS-CoV-2 Superspreading Event

Note - the data was collected based on a supersoreader event in Feb 2020 - before the delta variant. Children are much more susceptible with Delta than the non-Delta variant spread during this era.

 

Note - the data was collected based on a supersoreader event in Feb 2020 - before the delta variant. Children are much more susceptible with Delta than the non-Delta variant spread during this era.

Sure. It was posted mainly about the importance of good ventilation. Children are not targeted by the virus. The unvaccinated are more susceptible to contracting the Delta variant and children are a large unvaccinated group in the narrowing slice of remaining unvaccinated so their numbers are in proportion to who is left to be infected in the total number of new cases nationwide. The actual numbers of cases vs sickness and death for children is still very small.
https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#demographics

 

~70 Healthy and very active including kayaking. He had been vaxed and came down with a bad cough that turned out to be Covid. Spent a few days in the hospital and had been released so went home. Wife was visiting her children and parents in P'burg and didn't hear from him so went home to South Carolina to check on him and found him dead. Sharon is also vaxed but also has Covid and apparently exposed all the families in P'burg to it now. Quite a mess...

Thank you for sharing.

 

Sure. It was posted mainly about the importance of good ventilation. Children are not targeted by the virus. The unvaccinated are more susceptible to contracting the Delta variant and children are a large unvaccinated group in the narrowing slice of remaining unvaccinated so their numbers are in proportion to who is left to be infected in the total number of new cases nationwide. The actual numbers of cases vs sickness and death for children is still very small.
https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#demographics

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I wasn't saying you shouldn't have posted it. I just didn't want someone reading the Readers Digest Condensed Version (Joe Rogan Style) and then saying kids don't get infected.

 

There is no covid vaccine.... Vaccine is made my isolating and killing or weakening of real virus. And that would give you lasing resistance. But the current remedies are none of that, yet they got still named "vaccine". They are built on different principles.
Also none of them are approved and there is no available legal recourse against remedy manufacturers when things do go wrong.


Nobody is questioning science behind vaccine but creating something different and simply calling it vaccine does not ensure its performance.

It is a treatment alright, but not what it claims to be.

Add to that distorted media coverage, political agendas, calls for forced administration of something not proven, need for frequent boosters, possibly perpetual boosters, absence of clinical tests etc. Not exactly confidence building....

I got two shots of Pfizer, and still have to wear mask, practice distancing, cannot travel freely... my wife and son had the same, but both were really wasted for many days after each shot. Not looking forward to more of it...

 

hi p_a,
There are already many types of Vaccines already in use that require booster shot.

If you were in charge how would 'prove' these Covid vaccines.?

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https://vk.ovg.ox.ac.uk/vk/types-of-vaccine