Maybe it's a one-off cure or just a coincidence.

Another silver lining:
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/flu-has-disappeared-worldwide-during-the-covid-pandemic/

Flu Has Disappeared Worldwide during the COVID Pandemic

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/c...-forcing-a-return-to-restrictions/ar-BB1geOZN

COVID-19 surges in Oregon, sickening younger adults and forcing a return to restrictions

Our state number are still small but I hope this gives an incentive for younger adults to get vaccinated here.

Unfortunately, that article doesn't seem to be based on reality. Where are the death statistics showing that youths are now dying a significantly higher rate? The article doesn't provide any.

This is really just a testament to how inept Oregon politicians have become these days. Knee-jerk policies based on scant evidence...

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ient-amid-reports-hugging-may-soon-be-allowed

People in England urged to be patient amid reports hugging may soon be allowed

 

People in England hug? I thought they were all stiff upper lip and all that.

 

People in England hug? I thought they were all stiff upper lip and all that.

hi ES.
We are, but we are also great huggers, a good hug a with family member or close friend is great way to greet each other and it shows you care.

E

 

Unfortunately, that article doesn't seem to be based on reality. Where are the death statistics showing that youths are now dying a significantly higher rate? The article doesn't provide any.

This is really just a testament to how inept Oregon politicians have become these days. Knee-jerk policies based on scant evidence...

We have been told same in BC for last month. While "cases" have seemed to increase a bit, death are very low, lowest ever. The opioid epidemic declared 5 years ago continues steady. More people died from it than from COVID.

 

We have been told same in BC for last month. While "cases" have seemed to increase a bit, death are very low, lowest ever. The opioid epidemic declared 5 years ago continues steady. More people died from it than from COVID.

That's true of pharmaceuticals in general, that during the 1+ year of the pandemic so far, more people have died from prescribed drugs, taken as directed, than from COVID. Some estimates go as high as a million per year. Nary a peep about that.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-56943652

Covid: UK clubbers return to Liverpool for trial night

UK clubbers have returned to the dance floor for the first time since the pandemic began, as part of trials to see how venues can reopen.
Some 6,000 partygoers are expected at a warehouse in Liverpool across a two-day event that started on Friday.
Ticket-holders don't need to socially distance or wear face coverings, but they'll need a negative Covid test result before being allowed in.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-56943652

Covid: UK clubbers return to Liverpool for trial night

I hope it doesn't turn out to be the party of their lives for some of the attendants ...

 

Where are the death statistics showing that youths are now dying a significantly higher rate?

Many in this thread keep bringing up death as the only consequence of Covid that matters. But there is more than meets the news. There is something that is being called "long haul Covid" or just "long Covid. My wifes kidney doctor is one that has it. He while no longer having Covid, still isn't able to come into the clinic, he does his exams and consultations online with a nurse practitioner doing the actual hands on exam. This is after more than a year, and he doesn't know if he can ever come back. https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/the-tragedy-of-the-post-covid-long-haulers-2020101521173

 

Many in this thread keep bringing up death as the only consequence of Covid that matters. But there is more than meets the news. There is something that is being called "long haul Covid" or just "long Covid. My wifes kidney doctor is one that has it. He while no longer having Covid, still isn't able to come into the clinic, he does his exams and consultations online with a nurse practitioner doing the actual hands on exam. This is after more than a year, and he doesn't know if he can ever come back. https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/the-tragedy-of-the-post-covid-long-haulers-2020101521173

You're right... I have a very close friend who he and his wife got covid a few months ago. They've recovered, but complain that their sense of smell and taste hasn't returned to normal. And his wife has this permanent ache in her joints that she also complains about and is desperate for it to go away.

 

You're right... I have a very close friend who he and his wife got covid a few months ago. They've recovered, but complain that their sense of smell and taste hasn't returned to normal. And his wife has this permanent ache in her joints that she also complains about and is desperate for it to go away.

There are reports that the vaccine can help clear up "long COVID". If they haven't already, they should definitely give it a go.

 

Many in this thread keep bringing up death as the only consequence of Covid that matters. But there is more than meets the news. There is something that is being called "long haul Covid" or just "long Covid. My wifes kidney doctor is one that has it. He while no longer having Covid, still isn't able to come into the clinic, he does his exams and consultations online with a nurse practitioner doing the actual hands on exam. This is after more than a year, and he doesn't know if he can ever come back. https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/the-tragedy-of-the-post-covid-long-haulers-2020101521173

We NEED to be focusing on death statistics. Those are the numbers that count! Why is the media avoiding any mention of them? Perhaps it's because they know that if they did then people probably wouldn't support those kinds of excessive measures?

 

There are reports that the vaccine can help clear up "long COVID". If they haven't already, they should definitely give it a go.

I didn't know that ... but they're getting vaccinated this week anyway. Thanks for the heads up.

 

 

We NEED to be focusing on death statistics. Those are the numbers that count! Why is the media avoiding any mention of them?

Don't know where you live or what media you watch/see. Last report I saw in the US it is over 575K dead and that was Thursday or Friday of last week. I don't watch everyday. Well looks like it's higher now, 591K.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

But just like during a fighting war, the wounded are more important to wining than the number killed. The wounded take more resources to take care of.

 

Don't know where you live or what media you watch/see. Last report I saw in the US it is over 575K dead and that was Thursday or Friday of last week. I don't watch everyday. Well looks like it's higher now, 591K.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/


But just like during a fighting war, the wounded are more important to wining than the number killed. The wounded take more resources to take care of.

Just look at the Covid death statistics for Oregon. You can see that 2,502 out of 4,237,256 Oregonians have died from the virus. That's 59 per 100,000 residents. Now compare that with the national average for diabetes deaths in a given year (in this case, 2017). That just happens to be roughly 83 per 100,000 residents.

And yet no one seems to be advocating shutting down the country due over diabetes. Of course not. That would be totally irrational. Well likewise it just doesn't make sense to continue the lockdowns on account of Covid based on those kinds of mortality rates.

 

Just look at the Covid death statistics for Oregon. You can see that 2,502 out of 4,237,256 Oregonians have died from the virus. That's 59 per 100,000 residents. Now compare that with the national average for diabetes deaths in a given year (in this case, 2017). That just happens to be roughly 83 per 100,000 residents.

And yet no one seems to be advocating shutting down the country due over diabetes. Of course not. That would be totally irrational. Well likewise it just doesn't make sense to continue the lockdowns on account of Covid based on those kinds of mortality rates.

Let's put this into perspective... true as your numbers are, I consider Brazil a living example of what could've happened if absolutely no preventive measures had been enforced:

Covid-19 caused one in three deaths in Brazil so far this year​

It's hard to argue about tragedies that did not happen. But having a case to compare our current situation to is quite helpful

 

Let's put this into perspective... true as your numbers are, I consider Brazil a living example of what could've happened if absolutely no preventive measures had been enforced:

Covid-19 caused one in three deaths in Brazil so far this year​

It's hard to argue about tragedies that did not happen. But having a case to compare our current situation to is quite helpful

Places like Brazil are also at a disadvantage due to the high population densities found in certain areas. And unfortunately those very same areas often tend not to be so hygienic to begin with. Same thing goes for India. Cramped conditions are NOT good for keeping Covid numbers down.

 

 

Think about the positive.