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shortbus

Joined Sep 30, 2009
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It maybe obvious but haven't seen it mentioned yet. Have you checked each commutator segment to the shaft? From what I gather in this thread, it sounds like you have replaced the copper part of the commutator, the bars. If that is what you did you may have a short to the shaft/armature. This would keep it from running.
 

MaxHeadRoom

Joined Jul 18, 2013
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If a 12v motor It should output around 5-6v at that rpm.
You either have some error in the fitting of the com or wrong connections.
That is if the coils are intact with no damage.
Max.
 

MaxHeadRoom

Joined Jul 18, 2013
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The Utube in post#18 shows the com orientation and the coil connections, as long as each section has the start end end of adjacent coils.
Check for com shorts segment to segment and to GND.
Max.
 

shortbus

Joined Sep 30, 2009
10,050
If a 12v motor It should output around 5-6v at that rpm.
You either have some error in the fitting of the com or wrong connections.
That is if the coils are intact with no damage.
Max.
Or couldn't it be that the end cap with the brushes is not in the correct position with regard to the field magnets.
 

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beatsal

Joined Jan 21, 2018
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Or couldn't it be that the end cap with the brushes is not in the correct position with regard to the field magnets.
Thanks. Yes, did check the brushes and they are in the correct position i.e. same axis as the poles. Tried it again and the motor does rotate about 1/2-1 turn and stops. Wonder if there is something sticking and preventing rotation. Also visually checked the connections i.e. start of 1 coil goes to finish of the next. If it were not correct, would the motor rotate 1/2-1 turn? Just wondering.
 

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beatsal

Joined Jan 21, 2018
425
Thanks. Yes, did check the brushes and they are in the correct position i.e. same axis as the poles. Tried it again and the motor does rotate about 1/2-1 turn and stops. Wonder if there is something sticking and preventing rotation. Also visually checked the connections i.e. start of 1 coil goes to finish of the next. If it were not correct, would the motor rotate 1/2-1 turn? Just wondering.
Is there a simple way to check the coil connections i.e. if start connected to finish of 1 coil to the next?
 

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beatsal

Joined Jan 21, 2018
425
Thanks.
Had tried with P.M. Not come across P.M. with N, S marked. So my P.M. attracted to each of the 3 coils, so could not determine polarity, since it attracted to each of the 3 coils the same way! May be a compass is better? Also, this is a 18VDC motor, so assume that 4VDC across each coil for this test is OK?
 

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beatsal

Joined Jan 21, 2018
425
trying to design a shovel to dump fine sand from A to B. The trolley/truck that moves the shovel is already built - now trying to design the shovel to scoop the sand at A, then move to B (about 10' away) and dump the sand. This is a miniature shovel i.e. 18" wide by 12 " long. Battery operated.
 

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beatsal

Joined Jan 21, 2018
425
Hi MaxHeadRoom: On a slightly different topic I have 4 coils fed with 90 deg phase shifted current and 2 Hall sensors. This is from an old Video player. Trying to replace the analog cct but not sure how. Please help
 
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