What kind of signal is present on the COUNTER pin?

 

Does the 11.8 volts drop when connected?

When I connect the white line with the coin acceptor switched to NO I get -.45V. When i switch the coin acceptor to NC i get +11.8 volts. When i put a coin in with the coin acceptor on NO, the meter goes from -.45 to 2.8ishV

 

What kind of signal is present on the COUNTER pin?

I'll get anywhere between a 1 to 2 voltage spike when i put a coin in

 

When i switch the coin acceptor to NC i get +11.8 volts.

What I'm trying to find out is when switching to NC at +11.8 volts does that voltage drop when connecting to the + trigger input?

 

What I'm trying to find out is when switching to NC at +11.8 volts does that voltage drop when connecting to the + trigger input?

Im getting .14V across +trigger input and -trigger input when acceptor is on NC. May have been checking the wrong terminals earlier

 

Im getting .14V across +trigger input and -trigger input when acceptor is on NC. May have been checking the wrong terminals earlier

What does the voltage measure when a coin is inserted and how are you reading this voltage?
This is on the output of the COIN pin correct?
What setting are you using for the pulse width?

 

What does the voltage measure when a coin is inserted and how are you reading this voltage?
This is on the output of the COIN pin correct?
What setting are you using for the pulse width?

When I measure from end of white coin wire to negative terminal i get 3.4V on NC. When i switch to NO it drops to .1V.

I am not sure which pulse width to use so i have been using either of 3 settings.

Could it be that the coin wire is not outputting enough voltage to trigger the delayed relay?

 

When I measure from end of white coin wire to negative terminal i get 3.4V on NC. When i switch to NO it drops to .1V.

Is this 3.4 volt reading when connected to the + trigger input?
Normally I would set the pulse duration at max, 100ms.
What happens if you connect the COIN output set on NC to the - trigger input?
Post a link to the relay module please.

 

Have you experimented to see what voltage is required to trigger that pulse-relay device? And to see what the pulse duration must be? It is entirely possible that the pulse is not adequate to trigger your relay.

 

Is this 3.4 volt reading when connected to the + trigger input?
Normally I would set the pulse duration at max, 100ms.
What happens if you connect the COIN output set on NC to the - trigger input?
Post a link to the relay module please.

The 3.4V is when the coin wire is free. When i connect the coin wire to the trigger + and measure across the trigger + to the trigger - I get .14V.

It looks like the options for pulse width are 20 50 and 70ms

 

Have you experimented to see what voltage is required to trigger that pulse-relay device? And to see what the pulse duration must be? It is entirely possible that the pulse is not adequate to trigger your relay.

I was just going to try and see if a 5V would trigger it. It may be that, exactly

 

I was just going to try and see if a 5V would trigger it. It may be that, exactly

Unfortunately there is probably no information at all about that "relay module" from the supplier. If it came from amazon you are out of luck for sure.

 

I was just going to try and see if a 5V would trigger it. It may be that, exactly

From the info I found the +trigger requires 12 volts on that unit. Appears the trigger input is loading down the output from the acceptor.
Might be able to add a transistor to amplify the coin output.

 

From the info I found the +trigger requires 12 volts on that unit. Appears the trigger input is loading down the output from the acceptor.
Might be able to add a transistor to amplify the coin output.

Any model transistor in particular you would recommend?

 

I'm thinking this scheme using a npn transistor like a 2N3904 and a 10K resistor.
Using the NO coin output to activate the transistor which inverts the signal to trigger the - input.
What components do you have on hand?

 

I think that base resistor value is to high. I suggest a MAX value of 1K.

 

I'm thinking this scheme using a npn transistor like a 2N3904 and a 10K resistor.
Using the NO coin output to activate the transistor which inverts the signal to trigger the - input.
What components do you have on hand?
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I have an Arduino kit with some resistors but no transistors. I can order some. I was thinking to use an arduino board but i don't know how to code

 

I have an Arduino kit with some resistors but no transistors. I can order some. I was thinking to use an arduino board but i don't know how to code

I'm still thinking it might be possible to use the Counter output. Can you get a voltage reading when a coin is inserted in both NO and NC positions NOT connected to the relay module ?

 

I'm still thinking it might be possible to use the Counter output. Can you get a voltage reading when a coin is inserted in both NO and NC positions NOT connected to the relay module ?

I should have started off by saying this is what I want to create. Do you think there is a better way than using a relay to create something like this? Maybe not so much with the lights and all just the coin acceptor

 

Unfortunately I can't read that language but it seems if a motor and timing are required a relay would be appropriate.
With a little more data from coin acceptor I believe you can make it work.