Gee, I don't know perhaps more poor people could afford private transportation, maybe people would have more money to send their kids to college.

You know...stuff like that.

Interesting .
You think gas transport is cheaper than public transport or EV transport.
Money for collage. Is that an American thing , paying for higher education up front ?
I hear the us you pay up front for medical things , even giving birth .
Uhm

 

Gee, I don't know perhaps more poor people could afford private transportation, maybe people would have more money to send their kids to college.

Perhaps a working parent could afford more food for their family.

You know...stuff like that.

I didn't think it was even worth the effort.

Godspeed.

 

Interesting .
You think gas transport is cheaper than public transport or EV transport.
Money for collage. Is that an American thing , paying for higher education up front ?
I hear the us you pay up front for medical things , even giving birth .
Uhm

Stop with the, this system is better than that system nonsense. Nothing is free, somebody is paying for it and cheap energy gives most of those places the means to spend on other things that are expensive.

Ask Cuba about cheap gas.

 

You think gas transport is cheaper than public transport or EV transport.

Public transportation is poor to non-existent in rural areas. Likewise, EV transport infrastructure is non-existent; and I have mileage paranoia. It's 20 miles to the grocery store. Plus, EV's are hard on roads (and tires and batteries), and they don't contribute to road maintenance via the gasoline tax.

 

Stop with the, this system is better than that system nonsense. Nothing is free, somebody is paying for it and cheap energy gives most of those places the means to spend on other things that are expensive.

Ask Cuba about cheap gas.

Seems like your arguing for renewables.
Cuba is having problems because it relied on foreign gas , which the USA has cut off.
If it had invested in renewables ,gas would not be a problem .

 

If it had invested...

In order to invest, you must first have something to invest. Effects follow causes.

 

Public transportation is poor to non-existent in rural areas. Likewise, EV transport infrastructure is non-existent; and I have mileage paranoia. It's 20 miles to the grocery store. Plus, EV's are hard on roads (and tires and batteries), and they don't contribute to road maintenance via the gasoline tax.

Public transport poor , yes because it's not been invested in .
Don't know which country your in , but I Europe the EV and gas cars contribute to road building .
In terms of EV cars bad for roads. Why ? The pressure per square cm from the tyres on the road ? Is that worse or better than say lorries or gas cars ?
Do you think it's because EV cars out accelerate most gas cars ? . Wow , so your arguing that high power cars like Mustangs should be taxed more because they ruin roads ?
If it's a problem , quit easy for governments to introduce a limiter on EV acceleration .

 

In order to invest, you must first have something to invest. Effects follow causes.

Did you invest in your house ?
Did you pay in cash ?

 

Did you invest in your house ?

Actually, the mortgage company invested in my house. Literally. That is its business.

 

Public transport poor , yes because it's not been invested in .

There's no investment because riders aren't there because the schedule would be too infrequent (there's a bus that goes from the coast to Portland. One trip each way per day. That's not very convenient, so not well used. Plus, I can ride it for free due to some agreements with the "bus" line. It's still too inconvenient.

Don't know which country your in , but I Europe the EV and gas cars contribute to road building .

I'm in the Pacific Northwest of the USA. You can check by hovering over my avatar.

In terms of EV cars bad for roads. Why ? The pressure per square cm from the tyres on the road ? Is that worse or better than say lorries or gas cars ?

Electric cars are notoriously hard on tires (and roads) due to the battery weight. And, yes, it's worse than gasoline cars. Like I said, roads in my area are funded by gasoline taxes and EVs don't pay them. There's talk about taxing EVs for road maintenance, but it's just talk. Interest in EVs is down anyway. I think primarily due to politics. Adopters tended to be more liberal and they don't agree with the politics of a leading pusher of EVs. And the current Administration is pushing fossil fuels...

Do you think it's because EV cars out accelerate most gas cars ? . Wow , so your arguing that high power cars like Mustangs should be taxed more because they ruin roads ?

I never said anything about performance. Clearly you have some hidden agenda here...

 

Actually, the mortgage company invested in my house. Literally. That is its business.

Yep . Governments also have access to loans , at better rates than you could get
So we agree no need to get the money in first.

 

Yep . Governments also have access to loans , at better rates than you could get
So we agree no need to get the money in first.

Did you know...

You can form an investment company and offer your funds to the Cuban government to build windmills?

If you believe that would be a good investment, I have no idea why you wouldn't do it.

 

Did you know...

You can form an investment company and offer your funds to the Cuban government to build windmills?

If you believe that would be a good investment, I have no idea why you wouldn't do it.

Sorry I'm not a Cuban financier .

 

Sorry I'm not a Cuban financier .

Pretty much neither is anyone else.

I wonder why.

 

Pretty much neither is anyone else.

I wonder why.

You ask why no one finances Cuba.
I think it's because the USA imposed big embargo on anyone that tried to invest.

 

You ask why no one finances Cuba.
I think it's because the USA imposed big embargo on anyone that tried to invest.

Primary Sovereign Creditors

• China: A major financial partner that has frequently restructured Cuban debt and provided new, smaller loans for infrastructure projects, including solar energy and shipping, despite a reduction in trade in recent years.
• Russia: Russia has maintained a special economic relationship with Cuba, pledging significant economic aid for infrastructure and oil in 2025. It has also previously forgiven a vast majority of Soviet-era debt.
• Venezuela: Historically, Venezuela has been a crucial economic lifeline, providing significant oil subsidies and financing.
• Paris Club Creditors: This group of 22 creditor nations (including Spain, Japan, France, and Canada) signed a major debt restructuring deal with Cuba in 2015, forgiving $8.5 billion in debt. However, as of late 2023, Cuba has struggled to make payments on this restructured debt.

Nobody ever gets their money back.

 

This is a pointless argument (as I expected it would be). I'm out.

 

Interesting .
You think gas transport is cheaper than public transport or EV transport.

Show me cheap public transportation in the US that is not heavily subsidized by government.

Public transportation in the US is subsidized by all three levels of government.

 

...subsidized...

Ha. You mean "invested", don't you?