Mods are members too and can participate in hot-topic threads as members on par with the rest of the posters.

In the words of John Belushi: "Moderation is for Monks" ... no, wait... did he say "moderators are like monks"? .... can't remember ... too tired ... gotta hit the sac, nighty night.

 

one needs to first aquire a proper yardstick to measure reality with. And I'm afraid that reason alone won't cut it, since it also depends on the one that claims to own it

A most marvelous observation by my ne'er-do-well nephew: Local reality is always controlled by the craziest person in the locale.
He's a full blown slacker, but I have to let him own that one, and it's good!

 

Reactionaries and Leftists

Why insult only one side?

 

Why insult only one side?

Point taken

TTFN
HP

 

Fair enough!



Respectfully, such is inconsistent with publicly declared policy as stated HERE

I draw your attention to the following:

-- Emphasis added --

IMO the (original) policy is worth preserving not merely for maintenance of 'the letter of the law' but, rather, for the wisdom vested therein...

Very best regards
HP

You shouldn't believe everything you read on the Internet. Any user or Moderator can write their own rules on a post which are never updated. I suggest you use the rules in the Site "Terms and Rules" linked at the bottom of this page.

Politics is no longer a banned topic and I don't think religion ever was specifically called out.

1. Restricted topics. The following topics are regularly raised however are considered "off-topic" at all times and will result in Your thread being closed without question:
   
   • Any kind of over-unity devices and systems
   • Devices designed to electrocute or shock another person
   • LEDs to mains
   • Any kind of jammers (ie - Phone jammers)
   • Rail guns and high-energy projectile devices
   • Transformer-less power supplies
   If You come across a thread or post discussing any of the above topics please report the thread so We can close, and if necessary remove, the offending thread/posts.

 

You shouldn't believe everything you read on the Internet. Any user or Moderator can write their own rules on a post which are never updated.

Yebut... It's a 'sticky'! Is nothing sacred anymore? -- But seriously! At very least such testifies to the fact that tolerance of (much less advocacy for) such discourse is not an inherent aspect of this community...

Respectfully
HP

 

Politics is no longer a banned topic

Really? Then why did Scott lock this thread?

 

Thanks.

 

Really? Then why did Scott lock this thread?

I don't explain other people's actions. Ask him.

 

I don't explain other people's actions. Ask him.

You're right. I shouldn't have addressed that question to you. It just seemed like a good opportunity to point out what I think is an unfair inconsistency in this forum.

 

You're right. I shouldn't have addressed that question to you. It just seemed like a good opportunity to point out what I think is an unfair inconsistency in this forum.

The thread was shut down because we got several complaints about it. In this case, several moderators agreed with the complaints and closed the thread.

The charge of inconsistency is somewhat unfair, IMHO. As I have frequently stated, Off Topic is lightly moderated so that members can engage in adult conversations on a variety of topics. This policy was set by popular demand from our membership. But by allowing such conversations, it is inevitable that someone will take umbrage at some point but that's the price you pay for the opportunity to participate in hot-topic threads. For the most part, members do a pretty good job of self-moderation, admittedly difficult for a bunch of Type A personalities. When a thread goes off the rails or someone loses it and gets ugly, we get the reports - sometimes from multiple offenders demanding that the other be banned. Then we go to work to try to resolve the issue.

Some of the apparent inconsistency may be because we take each complaint/report on a case by case basis for OT rather than apply a strict set of rules in draconian fashion. A firm adherence to a list of rules would make moderation easy but would radically change the community that members have overwhelmingly endorsed with their participation and conversations with the staff. It has been working pretty well but you have to ride out the inevitable bumps along the way.

 

For the most part, members do a pretty good job of self-moderation, admittedly difficult for a bunch of Type A personalities.

You tell 'em, John! No use stamping ones feet and crying, "It's not fair". Some of us ain't got flowery speech, or most of our original teeth, but we're allowed to disagree 'bout most anything, as long as it don't get ugly.

Personally, I have taken a week off (more than once) because I got hot under the collar. Sometimes that's the best a Type A can manage...but it works.

 

For the most part, members do a pretty good job of self-moderation

Good observation... this place sometimes reminds me of The System of Doctor Tarr and Professor Fether....

 

Sometimes you just need to go through all the stages real quick in our fast-paced, competition-driving society.

I found that this might apply to all parties other than the millennials...

 

interesting that Pence is allowed to singlehandedly provide tax incentives in Indiana. I thought those Hoosiers were opposed to executive orders.

It only gets better. I just heard out of the corner of my ear that 400 of the 700 "saved" jobs were in R&D and were never going to Mexico. Not sure what the remaining 300 are going to do, but I suspect it will come out.
Jobs report out today - 178,000 new jobs.
If he can pick up his pace and ignore everything else he is supposed to be doing he can save a months worth of jobs next year. But having said that there are opportunities.. After he saves Oreo he can come back for the rest of Carrier.

 

It only gets better. I just heard out of the corner of my ear that 400 of the 700 "saved" jobs were in R&D and were never going to Mexico. Not sure what the remaining 300 are going to do, but I suspect it will come out.
Jobs report out today - 178,000 new jobs.
If he can pick up his pace and ignore everything else he is supposed to be doing he can save a months worth of jobs next year. But having said that there are opportunities.. After he saves Oreo he can come back for the rest of Carrier.

Yup, those people losing their $23/hr jobs night be better off applying for some of the open positions elsewhere in Indiana than their former coworkers that get to stay.

With your info on R&D/design engineering jobs never at risk, that puts the incentives at about $14000 per saved employee per year.

 

This policy was set by popular demand from our membership.

Legislation by 'mobocracy'!? -- Guess it's your call (i.e. that of the moderation staff in general) -- 'tho I'm bound to say I don't envy the position you've placed yourselves in...

rather than apply a strict set of rules in draconian fashion.

Draconian? -- And I would think insistence upon adherence to 'dispassionate' subject matter on physical science themed, poly-cultural fora would best be described as basal common sense?

but would radically change the community

I very much doubt that considering leniency Re: political discussion is a rather new 'experiment' here...

we take each complaint/report on a case by case basis

Granted! - Where flexible policy is in force (for better or worse) -- Case-by-case enforcement would seem the sole approach where the goal is attainment of anything vaguely reminiscent of justice (granting that all concerned parties are appraised of the rational back of disposition in each case)

Respectfully
HP

 

Yup, those people losing their $23/hr jobs night be better off applying for some of the open positions elsewhere in Indiana than their former coworkers that get to stay.

With your info on R&D/design engineering jobs never at risk, that puts the incentives at about $14000 per saved employee per year.

Maybe he threatened to sell his stock.

Trump's personal financial interest in Carrier:

According to Trump's 2015 Personal Public Financial Disclosure Report filed in May, he received between $2,500 and $5,000 in interest from his investments in United Technologies, the parent company of Carrier.

 

Legislation by 'mobocracy'!?

Sounds like benevolent dictatorship to me.

 

Good observation... this place sometimes reminds me of The System of Doctor Tarr and Professor Fether....

Geees, @cmartinez - I dunno if I want to characterize the 'Mod Squad' as a lunatic revolt.... Yet!

With benign intent
HP