HP you must like olive trees but I say the fruit is too bitter and branch is worseIn my experience collectivism and individualism are utterly immiscible philosophies (I daresay even theologies) -- Hence no good can come of debate --- That said, politics aside, there is no inherent obstacle to cooperation, exchange of ideas, and indeed friendship amongst 'mixed-adherents'!Hence my strong desire that forum management reconsider their 'newfound' leniency regarding political discussion --- Somehow I get the feeling that AGW proponents' proficiency at, for instance, PLL loop filter design, is on a par with that of the skeptics
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