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Aleph(0)

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In my experience collectivism and individualism are utterly immiscible philosophies (I daresay even theologies) -- Hence no good can come of debate --- That said, politics aside, there is no inherent obstacle to cooperation, exchange of ideas, and indeed friendship amongst 'mixed-adherents'!:) Hence my strong desire that forum management reconsider their 'newfound' leniency regarding political discussion --- Somehow I get the feeling that AGW proponents' proficiency at, for instance, PLL loop filter design, is on a par with that of the skeptics:D
HP you must like olive trees but I say the fruit is too bitter and branch is worse:p So just so nobody misunderstands I'm _to each their own_ too:)!
 

tcmtech

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Why do you bring AVERAGES into the argument? @crutschow clearly said "TODAY's" vehicles. I could understand that you attempt to make yourself sound right if we were discussing this verbally where we cannot confirm the previous claims but in this forum, EVERYTHING IS WRITTEN in previous posts. We have a record of it.
Okay? What exactly are you trying to define and argue about? We seem to be on two very different topics here. I'm talking aobut how emissions compliance hurts fuel efficiency numbers plus how it has compared over the years and how I got around the designs and what was gained from it. That's all and I have never claimed anything otherwise.

Now as for the rest of it, How exactly do you define today's vehicles?
I define them as any modern vehicle still in active use today that falls anywhere close the statically defined average age and design characteristics of all modern vehicles registered and newer. I have never claimed otherwise. For me personally, 'today's vehicles' I drive are anything newer than 1994 since that's the oldest actively used vehicle I have on the road but to be fair given the average age of vehicles is 11.5 years that by the numbers would say that the vast majority of vehicles are less than 23 years old or of post ~ 1994 manufacture date just as everyone of my registered vehicles are. 2017 - (11.5 x 2) = 1994 :p

That seems to fit very well into everything I have said and referenced so far.

So if that's wrong how do you define the statistical range of a large subject group Vs a narrow field of its subsets without using some degree of average and defined min/max comparison points? o_O

The numbers I am finding say that ~17.5 million new vehicles were sold in the last 12 months of which by my basic math that 17.5 million of the registered ~253 million represents ~ 6.9% of which of that ~6.9% only a fraction of them have the new 9 and 10 speed automatics putting the 9 and 10 speed automatics comparison value insignificantly low compared to what is on the road as a whole today just as my comparison to how many million dollar plus super cares are on the road today.
Both validly are out there but they do not represent a significant value and quantity of the definable active whole group as of today. :(
 
Shortbus HP can say exact details but it's cuz if you let plenum warp too much coolant leaks into intake and jams motor cuz of hydrolock so since plenum takes less time to install than new motor she just does it like quarterly as preventative maintenance:) I think there's something else too so @Hypatia's Protege can tell you all that:cool:
That about sums it up 'tho I would point to the facts that the plenum is fashioned of :mad:polymer:mad: material -and- that liability to coolant ingestion owes to a scheme whereby coolant is conducted to the throttle-body via passages in said plenum (with the aim of heating the former) -- ergo misalignment of the plenum-to-TB contact surfaces (secondary to plenum distortion) rapidly floods the intake gallery - with lamentable results:rolleyes::mad:

I think there's something else too so
Well... The requirement of subchassis removal for minor service (e.g. fuel tank, cranking motor or transaxle replacement) come annoyingly to mind! - To any who feel that I'm merely a 'confirmed fault-finder', please note that the described misfeatures entail fully one week in the 'shop' for what should be a two to six hour service! -- Despite the principle involved I can 'get past' the shop fees -- Delay and 'abandonment', however, are quite another matter!:mad:

Best regards
HP:)
 

Sinus23

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It's been raining for 2 months here(There was this one part of a day that the wind blew so hard that most of the streets got dry...). We have set rain record for October and for sure November as well. Snowed a little bit. Then rain again, then below zero...Then 9°C again...Raining. Ugh.

This coupled with the darkness(gets even worse without the snow) Has made the morale of us who work outside every day really close to -1°C :(
 
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Sinus23

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Yes we very much use hot water from the ground to heat our houses(There are still parts of the country that have to rely on electricity to heat their houses and water) All hydro or thermal generated electricity though.

The temperature in our houses is fine.;)

However the temperature outside is funky. To say the least:(

I might be misunderstanding your question though...
 
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Yes we very much use hot water from the ground to heat our houses(There are still parts of the country that have to rely on electricity to heat their houses and water) All hydro or thermal generated electricity though.
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I've gotta sue my old Prep school 'Social Studies' instructor! -- She claimed that Icelandic streets are equipped subterranean 'steam pipes' (which being fed by geothermal activity, vulcanism, etc...) - Such that streets are perpetually clear of ice and snow and to raise above ground ambient temps as well -- Seems the US education system strikes again:rolleyes:

Best regards
HP:)
 

Sinus23

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--Emphasis added--

I've gotta sue my old Prep school 'Social Studies' instructor! -- She claimed that Icelandic streets are equipped subterranean 'steam pipes' (which being fed by geothermal activity, vulcanism, etc...) - Such that streets are perpetually clear of ice and snow and to raise above ground ambient temps as well -- Seems the US education system strikes again:rolleyes:

Best regards
HP:)
Well not so much our streets but there are plenty of driveways and sidewalks outside stores and such that are heated up and never end up icy.

So she was partly right:). But our roads...That would cost too much and take a long time I think;)
 

Sinus23

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No, but since we live in a active volcanic island we keep a good ear on any small earthquakes near any volcano that is still thought to be active. There have been plenty throughout the year but none 4 on the Richter scale.

But yeah there most likely will be an eruption somewhere in the next 5 years...(Just my speculations)
 

tcmtech

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It's been raining for 2 months here(There was this one part of a day that the wind blew so hard that most of the streets got dry...). We have set rain record for October and for sure November as well. Snowed a little bit. Then rain again, then below zero...Then 9°C again...Raining. Ugh.

This coupled with the darkness(get even worse without the snow) Has made the morale of us who work outside every day really close to -1°C :(
We are getting our first decent ass kicking snow storm we have had in years. Back to what we consider normal winter weather for us! :p

Heavy wet stuff too. I just got the big tractor snow blower up and running and the old MF 2745 with 140+ PTO HP was coming up short doing a single pass 8 foot wide 1 foot deep cut in low reverse at ~ 2 MPH. :cool:
 

tcmtech

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Glad to hear it but for how long didn't you guys have a decent snow storm?
Years. This is the first winter snow that is adding up to be enough to be worth considering getting my old snowmobile out and tuned up. The last time we had snow deep enough in this area to make it worth the effort was at least 5 or more years ago. :(
 

ronv

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Mean while, on the Left Coast, they can't drive them out fast enough.
Dairy farmers will be required to reduce methane emissions from manure to 40 percent below their 2013 levels by 2030, with the help of $50 million from the state’s fee charged to polluters, known as cap-and-trade.

The money will help a handful of them buy dairy digesters, which use methane from manure to generate energy that’s sold to electrical utilities.

You know California cows don't fart in public.:rolleyes:
 

Sinus23

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Yeah the weather has been a bit strange here in Iceland as well. Started to get really strange in the summer first around 2006-7. For a few summers there was next to no rain and really hot (Fields got sun-burned). But the winters weren't really odd...

Then it flip flopped. 2 years of really cold summers compared to even back in the day. The winters started going. Cold in the morning. Over 0°C during the day and freezing in the evening. Which caused a real pile-up of ice on the sidewalks. little bit of melt,freeze,melt, etc :|

But this is the first fall that I've witness this "every day there is some to much rain for this long time"

Makes keeping the mail+ the junk that follows X-mass shopping dry pretty annoying. Well lets just say that every part of my body hurts besides the knees...(Knocks on wood). :(
 
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