Australia is crazy, Covid.

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nsaspook

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Mandates kept the sick unvaccinated people away from the people who are old like me or who must not be vaccinated.
Since most people are vaccinated then the mandates did not affect us. Even the mask was no problem.
Mandates were dropped because the virus changed to the point mandates were useless as a transmission reduction measure. Even brutal Covid-Zero in a communist dictatorship is not stopping transmission. Vaccines today reduce health risks, not infection risks.
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/pol...chinese-cities-rush-contain-covid-19-wave-new
This is China’s most widespread Covid-19 outbreak since it contained the pandemic two years ago. As many as 1,524 new cases were reported nationwide on Saturday, the second day in a row where the numbers crossed 1,000. Nearly 1,050 of the cases were asymptomatic.
On Friday, Beijing made rapid antigen tests available to the public for the first time, suggesting a subtle change in tack in its “zero-Covid” response as cases surge.
 

Audioguru again

Joined Oct 21, 2019
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Experts never said that the vaccine that was made for the original Covid-19 variant perfectly prevents infection from one of the new variants. Instead they said the vaccine is 16 times better than nothing in preventing hospitalization or dying in the ICU and that the few vaccinated people who get "breakthough" Covid infection have minor symptoms.

BS? Not from the experts. It was antvaxxers who said to use horse worm killer, and said that the vaccine makes you radioactive, magnetic and sterile.

China and Hong Kong let in foreigners who passed the virus around. In Canada we let in 67 airplanes full of virus carrying Canadians returning from vacations plus foreigners each day for 14 days before blocking them.
 

nsaspook

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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-12/wa-records-4300-new-covid-19-cases/100905374
Western Australia records 4,300 COVID-19 cases, with 103 people in hospital


Looks like China is about to go exponential in case numbers.

https://www.scmp.com/coronavirus/gr...19-cases-surge-3-times-cross-3000-most-severe

China on brink of biggest Covid-19 crisis since Wuhan as cases triple
  • After topping 1,000 for two days, number of locally transmitted cases around the country races to more than 3,100, mostly driven by Jilin province
  • Shenzhen will suspend all public transport and carry out three rounds of citywide testing

While South Korea has record cases.
https://en.yna.co.kr/view/AEN20220313000851320
New COVID-19 cases above 350,000 for 2nd day amid omicron wave
 

panic mode

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BS? Not from the experts.
right... same person that is at the front of fighting pandemic is the one accused of funding Wuhan lab. no inquiry into the mater. clearly no BS and clearly lab was not involved so nobody should look at the lab. it must be that the virus in nature though 100000 species later there is still no ground zero animal and genome contains patented sequence. so BS there either.

also the FDA is the very organization that approved the vaccine after reviewing the mentioned data for 108 days. but would not redact for release the same data for 75 years. no BS there either. it is a science but we cannot see it. no BS at all.
https://windsor.ctvnews.ca/data-is-...release-of-pfizer-vaccine-documents-1.5816089

masks, isolation and vaccination are working well. then entire country of NZ was completely locked out, nobody ws allowed in and out, there was no scapegoat 67 planes and - surprise surprise. despite all, somehow they too are hit by Covid.
totally no BS there, the measures by the so called experts are "working".

the measures are so "successful" that there is no difference in survival rate in countries with high immunization and countries with very low immunization. no BS there.

the measures are so "successful" that forced mandates were called for and $1bn government media campaign was needed tp polish the turd and of course it is still a turd. it just does not pass the smell test.

so give me a break. how blind you need to be to still believe this BS narrative?

why is it so hard to say, gee that didn't age well, guess i was wrong, maybe it is time to take another look at things...

and what is wrong to look at anything else that may be useful? i don't care if it is ivermectin or not - how come one is not allowed to look and mention anything that it not aligned with the official dogma? isn't this supposed to be based on science? science does not look away from alternatives, it explores all paths. totally not BS, right?
 
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nsaspook

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The Pfizer Documents is a treasure trove for the conspiracy theorist trying to fool people with crap.

This is the type of things that were recorded as Serious Adverse Effects (SAEs) that somehow appeared in 2020.
https://www.fda.gov/media/144434/download
https://metro.co.uk/2020/12/18/covi...y-lightning-after-moderna-injection-13774498/
Covid vaccine volunteer, 72, struck by lightning after getting Moderna injection
That 72 year-old volunteer, whose name and gender have been withheld, met with the freak accident after getting an actual shot of Moderna’s vaccine, rather than the placedo, during the second phase of the vaccine’s trials.

The bizarre incident was revealed in the US Food and Drug Administration’s written media briefing into the safety of Moderna’s new vaccine. Doctors diagnosed the lightning strike victim with arrhythmia – an irregular heart beat – believed to have been caused by the strike. No further updates have been provided on the volunteer’s condition.

The incident comprised one of three Serious Adverse Effects (SAEs) suffered by study participants who received the real vaccine – with all of those health scares deemed unrelated to the shot itself.
From the previous post link about the FDA.
“The events themselves are not necessarily related to the vaccine,” says infectious disease expert, Dr. Dale Kalina. “It’s just part of the reporting process. And it is a requirement.”

Dr. Kalina says it's “disingenuous” for people against COVID vaccines to imply the list of events is proof the vaccine isn’t safe.

“This is an affront to the reality that we know which is that after the billions of people that have received COVID vaccines, they are safe, they are effective. Yes, there are of course some side effects related to it,” says Dr. Kalina.

He notes each event doesn’t mean the vaccine caused that reaction, rather he says it was reported to Pfizer in the “days and weeks” after the vaccine was administered.

For instance, one of the adverse effects included in a report is about a child who swallowed a penny after getting the shot.

“Swallowing a penny is something that five-year-olds do, on occasion, unfortunately,” says Dr. Kalina. “But I think we can plainly see that that wasn't related to administration of the vaccine itself, but it’s a good example of the fact that all adverse events are required to be documented.”

Dr. Gerald Evans, chair of the Division of Infectious Diseases at Queen’s University, says it's “patently false” for people against COVID vaccines to use one graph in one document, as proof positive, the vaccine isn’t safe.
 

Audioguru again

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The Covid-19 vaccines have saved the lives of many people and kept millions from needing hospital care.
Like most medicines, a few people were allergic to the vaccines.

With my age past the average lifetime of the people in my country, me and my vaccinated friends and relatives are glad to still be alive and have had 3 doses of the Pfizer vaccine. We did not hide isolated from everybody and everything, instead we simply wore a mask when shopping.
 

Audioguru again

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So the vaccine might have caused the 72 years old person to get hit with lightning and have arrhythmia of his heart.
My vaccine 3rd dose also might have caused my heart to have arrhythmia but I am fine 3 months later. Many unvaccinated old people also have arrhythmia of their heart.
I am glad I didn't attract lightning, nor become radioactive or magnetic like the antivaxxers say happens to vaccinated people.
 

panic mode

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there you go again with all the BS, grasping for straws, dragging into conversation anecdotal cases, lunatics, flat earthers, UFO abductees etc. anything to distract from serious questions... such as what the heck is going on in NZ if the measures are so good and science behind it is solid.
 
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Audioguru again

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I wonder if my vaccinations caused me to see a Boeing 777 fly past my home a few days ago with an engine on fire for a few seconds? An app on my pc showed 17 jets lined up to takeoff yesterday from the local international airport. Many more flew past my home to land. I like to watch the huge Emirates Airbus and all the new Dreamliners fly by.
 

DickCappels

Joined Aug 21, 2008
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Ahhh, yes! It must be the graphene in the vaccine that causes frying pans to stick to people just like with Uri Geller, also causes lightning to be attracted to the vaccinated!

By the way the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines are not now, even if they ever were, "safe and effective". I have always questioned the safe part but now, in the face of Omicron it is not very effective for very long at all. Where do I go to get a refund for my vaccinations?
 

nsaspook

Joined Aug 27, 2009
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Ahhh, yes! It must be the graphene in the vaccine that causes frying pans to stick to people just like with Uri Geller, also causes lightning to be attracted to the vaccinated!

By the way the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines are not now, even if they ever were, "safe and effective". I have always questioned the safe part but now, in the face of Omicron it is not very effective for very long at all. Where do I go to get a refund for my vaccinations?
The vaccine is safer than Luu moo. ;)
 

Audioguru again

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My government paid for the vaccine and is happy that it saved many lives and hospitalizations.
An article on MSM today says that 3.3 million Canadians got the virus and 37 thousand died (1.1%). They did not say that by far most of the dead were not vaccinated. Then the mandates worked to keep the unvaccinated people away from the other unvaccinated people.
 

panic mode

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Government does not have income and does not pay for anything. The money spent is collected through taxation. People like me paid for it.

Btw. Vast majority of people that died already had their days counted - vaccinated or not. For long time this piece of information was omitted, accidentally of course.

Then the mandates worked on ensuring it is the vaccinated that are spreading the virus and infecting other also vaccinated people.

Unvaccinated stayed in isolation and still got blamed for it. They paid for it in more than one way...
 
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DickCappels

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Keep in mind that it was over two years ago when we realized that the numbers being quoted by the governments were unreliable. As far as I can tell, even today we don't know really happened, or for that matter, what is happening. 1.1% sounds extraordinarily high.
 

DickCappels

Joined Aug 21, 2008
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I wonder if my vaccinations caused me to see a Boeing 777 fly past my home a few days ago with an engine on fire for a few seconds? An app on my pc showed 17 jets lined up to takeoff yesterday from the local international airport. Many more flew past my home to land. I like to watch the huge Emirates Airbus and all the new Dreamliners fly by.
In the 1980's my commute route to work each morning took me under the landing pattern for Moffet Field near Sunnyvale California (USA). One morning on the way into work, I noticed an Orion P-3 submarine hunter coming in for a landing. Just then what looked like puffs of smoke puffed out from the trailing edge of the wings. That scared me deeply.

When I got to work I dropped into the office of Doug, our Mechanical engineer who is also a licensed pilot who explained that the air pressure at the trailing edge of the wing is low compared to the surrounding air and under certain conditions moisture in the air at the trailing edge of the wings would expand and become visible. Maybe, @Audioguru again this is phenomenon that you witnessed.
 
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